This is an extremely patriotic view. Why should people do something they don’t want to do just to ensure the survival of their society/country? The future of society is irrelevant to people who have already decided to be childfree and live the life they want today.
“Oooh you’re so selfish” hell yeah I am. I get one life why would I waste it doing something I don’t want to do for a future I won’t even see?
Edit: thanks for the downvotes without explanation. If you have a blanket expectation for other people to live their lives according to your ideologies (even if it makes them unhappy), perhaps take a second to consider what you’re asking of them.
I downvoted you because you seem to have responded to the wrong post, or made a non sequitur. The parent post is about how the Japanese aren't even considering immigration as a solution; your response seems to argue that women are not obligated to have children.
My comment is in response to this statement from the parent:
> it looks like the Japanese would rather die than change.
Which, in context, was framed negatively, implying that Japanese people should be doing something they don’t want to do to avoid the collapse of their future society.
If you read my comment with this frame in mind, it might make more sense.
I too would like an explanation.
It’s one thing if OP was talking up a lifestyle that was destructive to others or the environment but that doesn’t seem to be the angle. I don’t get the requirement for children.
If you have ever paid attention to the comments a childless person (women in particular) receives, it’s not hard to see how they would end up a smidge jaded at society.
Suggestions of blindly following a flag because it’s your colour and casting shade on patriotism may provoke some?
> I get one life why would I waste it doing something I don’t want to do for a future I won’t even see?
> [...] If you have a blanket expectation for other people to live their lives according to your ideologies (even if it makes them unhappy), perhaps take a second to consider what you’re asking of them.
Rhetorical question: are you also one of those childless types who objects to your taxes paying to fund public schools?
Everything you consume or enjoy in your self-centered, hedonistic life is only available to you because others did things they didn't want to do for beneficiaries they'd never see. Even retirement is a pipe dream-- not everyone lives to see theirs. But we all do our part in the meantime. Except you, for some reason.
Your outlook is tone-deaf and antisocial (and not in the cool/edgy way), hence the lack of popularity. You'd be more popular were you to brag about making your living stealing candy from children and selling it back to them.
> Rhetorical question: are you also one of those childless types who objects to your taxes paying to fund public schools?
Why is it rhetorical? Because you made an assumption about my position without actually knowing where I stand? Which is actually incorrect, as I’m a huge proponent of the public education system. You seem to have confused my personal preference to not have children for something else entirely.
> Everything you consume or enjoy in your self-centered, hedonistic life is only available to you because others did things they didn't want to do for beneficiaries they'd never see. Even retirement is a pipe dream-- not everyone lives to see theirs.
This is not true at all. I live in a capitalistic society. Virtually everything I enjoy exists because it makes someone rich, not because someone altruistically gave up their life to make my life better. You’ve also placed a negative connotation towards my selfishness and hedonism. Can you please explain why it’s not acceptable for to enjoy my short time on earth?
> But we all do our part in the meantime. Except you, for some reason.
This statement proves my point. You believe I’m “not doing my part” in society based solely on me not wanting to have children (ignoring the fact I pay taxes, donate to charities and whatnot). You want me to live my life in accordance with your ideology, even if it makes me unhappy.
> You'd be more popular were you to brag about making your living stealing candy from children and selling it back to them.
Are you serious with this statement? You believe extorting children is more acceptable than living childfree?
“Oooh you’re so selfish” hell yeah I am. I get one life why would I waste it doing something I don’t want to do for a future I won’t even see?
Edit: thanks for the downvotes without explanation. If you have a blanket expectation for other people to live their lives according to your ideologies (even if it makes them unhappy), perhaps take a second to consider what you’re asking of them.