Now way its an old generation thing? I've seen "gang wars" among young adults of different castes in reputed Indian universities, located in cities.
I have first hand experience with people who chose friends based on caste. And caste is not illegal in India discrimination is, but politicians here are mostly caste mongerers and win elections.
We literally select our caste in govt forms,I literally had to get a caste certificate to prove for my college admission.Im not sure you know what you are talking about. Caste based discrimination is illegal not caste, we have a huge problem due to reservation quotas because govt still segregates people based on caste and tries to uplift them, but in turn sometimes it misfires.
But they have their own version of Affirmative Action, notably quotas for universities and government jobs, and a very common form of caste discrimination by upper-caste Indians in the US is to claim a lower-caste graduate from a prestigious university like IIT isn’t a genuine one because he was a “diversity admission”.
IIT has a common entrance exam and admissions are offered solely on your performance in that exam. If you see someone getting in with a very low score compared to the rest of the class, they will be rightfully branded as "diversity admission". It is no wonder that 60% of dropouts at 7 IITs are from reserved categories: https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/parliament-proceeding...
How can reservation work without knowing the caste? You also fill it in every damned form (recently was called back to daughters school to fill it when I just left it as Hindu)
"Article 17 of Indian Constitution says:
Untouchability” is abolished and its practice in any form is forbidden. The enforcement of any disability arising out of “Untouchability” shall be an offence punishable in accordance with law." - https://cjp.org.in/caste-discrimination-and-related-laws-in-...
There is more to the story and that's a good read, but in practice you can see cast discrimination still a lot in India, as I figured out recently when I have been a few weeks in the country.
> The caste system was outlawed ages ago. It very much is illegal.
As you'll note, the actual prohibition is on a narrow class of discrimination. That is what I was trying to emphasize. I live in India and am very much aware of the discrimination that still exists.
If you cannot discriminate on class, the purpose of class is abolished. After the british left, the caste system was outlawed. The constitution was written later to rule out class based discrimination.
I never said it wasn't still practiced. Just that its much more observed outside of the big cities than in it.
You've got it wrong entirely. Just because you dissolve discrimination, it doesn't magically kill segregation. Castes were created way back when they were used to classify people based on the work they do, and young ones continued in the steps of their older generations in their job so it was a mere classification of their family's work. Then it started going ugly when people in respectable jobs wanted to protect themselves from "outsiders" taking their jobs away.
But it just doesn't make sense anymore. No one is following their elders' job anymore. The caste system itself must be outlawed even to mention it.
As long as you still try to identify someone based on their caste, you are encouraging segregation. Govt forms must not include an outdated classification.
I shouldn't show proof of my caste to get a college admission. Marriages must not made based on it.
I kid you not, I was personally rejected from marriage with the woman I was in a relationship based on my caste.banning Discrimination did snt do shit.
You state I have it wrong then tell me proceed to agree with me. I never said that because it’s outlawed it’s no longer practiced. I’m fully aware it’s still practiced. And while it’s lesser in big cities. And much more wide spread outside. It doesn’t change the fact it still exists and is a stupid outdated system.
After the British came the caste system got worse. They used the caste system in their government and caused a lot of people to get upset.
We could literally blame all of India’s current caste issues on the British.
The government should be demolishing the caste system entirely based on the little I know from the people I’ve spoken to. It causes more harm than good. But it doesn’t change the fact that it is outlawed.
You're saying the caste system was banned - it wasn't. The ancient concept of being untouchable was banned after the British left, not the much more recent caste system, which survives to this day.
What others have been trying to explain to you is that only caste-based discrimination was banned, not the caste system itself.
Because they go on to say that the ban hasn't been very effective, you seem to miss that first point and start arguing that you weren't saying discrimination doesn't exist, which isn't addressing the intention behind what they were saying.
It was outlawed, and later written into the constitution.
I never said the caste system was abolished or doesn't exist. And I never mentioned 'untouchables'. It seems those replying and refuting anything I say are in favor of the caste system and want to keep it, which is utterly horrible.
If you cannot discriminate against caste, the caste serves no purpose, because you're effectively saying people are equal. But writing anti descrimination laws into the constitution obviously doesn't help society move away from it, especially when its so engrained into elders, or people who live outside the big cities.
In my last comment I said exactly that. Being outlawed does not mean it’s abolished. Something can be illegal and people still do it. People still commit murder and that’s been outlawed for like ever. So it can’t have been abolished if it still exists.
> How the fuck do you fix something if you keep pretending it's already fixed.
At no point did I say it’s a solved problem. My very first comment I said it happens outside the big cities more than the big cities. I never said it doesn’t happen.
You know. I heard a saying once: “people outside America know more about America than Americans know about America” it seems like the same is true here.
"old generation" probably means generations of immigrants. 1.5th and 2nd generation immigrants are much different from native Indians, they are basically raised outside India and have non-Indian friends.
