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Can you help me understand why the ChatGPT model has an inherent bias towards Joe Biden and against Donald Trump? This is not really what I would expect from a large language model .......


It's a uniquely American perspective that the two political parties should be treated equally. From a global perspective, one is far more problematic than the other, and GPT reflects that accurately.


And yet you’d almost certainly complain if an American company meddled in your country’s politics.


Should the language model treat every political party in every country equally?


Yes. Do you want to use a tool or an automated mouth piece for the regime?


An unbiased tool would never treat two parties completely equally.

If Trump and Biden both claim to have won the election, who should ChatGPT say is president? Should it flip a coin?


Godwin's Law in 3, 2, 1...


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It's probably been fed a lot of lefty propaganda about how it's "bad" to support insurrectionist riots and "wrong" to lie about losing an election.


Reality has an inherent liberal bias.

In all honesty though, the dataset it was trained on may have a liberal bias. This is _precisely_ the sort of bias you should expect from a large language model .............................


Weren't Reddit posts part of the core data set used to train the model?

That alone probably explains the bias.


Yes. And it probably wouldn't have a bias if reddit wasn't heavily censored, with anyone right leaning being banned. It's practically a left wing propoganda website now.


What do you mean about liberal bias.... Reality is by it's very nature unbiased. It just...is


It was a joke. I mean, it's a joke I personally happen to believe is true, but not something I will state as factual.

Somewhere on the political spectrum lies objective facts, truth, and logic. My priors tell me this side tends to be left-of-center. My priors also tell me that the majority of people's political beliefs are decided for them by their parents and their upbringing. So I'm happy to admit that plenty of liberals are in it for the wrong reasons. That doesn't detract from it being the side on the correct side of history.

But again, it was a joke.


I also used to believe that facts and truth were left of center. But after the whole "get vaccinated or you will be killing someone's grandparents" propoganda came out to be false, I have a hard time believing the left.


Okay.


A large data set will be biased if the sum of data is leaning towards some direction.

I'm not sure you can produce a truly unbiased model without actively interfering with it.

Just consider the fact that you'll find less republicans among scientists. (source: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2009/07/09/section-4-sc...)

Now the research-based data on ChatGPT will be biased. It takes no active "inserting" by OpenAI. It may manage creating the bias all by itself.


(Psst. You're the broken one, mate.)


Don't question the matrix on HN. Agents are already on their way. . .


It's also more hateful towards men than women.




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