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Can we get a [2009] in the title?

It would be interesting to see some updated numbers on this, especially from SO. While I don't imagine many programmers are using Bing, it would be interesting to see where DuckDuckGo ranks.



OK-doke, here's the last month of Stack Overflow search engine referral traffic.

  Google 69,081,674 visits
  Bing 520,543 visits
  Baidu 319,294
  Search (CBS) 176,208
  Yahoo 133,833
  MSDN 109.875
  Yandex 80.399
  Naver 89,733
  Ask 30,026
  DuckDuckGo 25,492
  AOL 6,409
  Daum 4,462
  Blekko 659


Interesting, thanks. I'm actually surprised that Baidu ranks as low as it does, given its overwhelming market share in China and the fact that most code out there is in English. I just did a quick experiment and googled some common errors, then compared the SERPs to those of Baidu. SO was ranked similarly in both. Do Chinese programmers not goog...er, baidu errors?

Actually, that leads me to a more relevant question: looking through the queries that landed visitors at SO, have you done some scraping to determine what proportion were people googling errors verbatim, and what percentage were people asking questions or googling a particular topic, eg "scaling rails"?


Baidu is probably used more by non technical people, so I guess software engineers use Google rather than Baidu.


Is StackOverflow blocked by the Great Firewall of China?

As it's full of user-contributed content which is outside the control of the Chinese state it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it was.


Just keep in mind: People who end up at Stack Overflow are heavily biased compared to the general Internet population - because they are looking for something that lead them to search for and then click a link to Stack Overflow.

This same bias that selects the population will affect the choice of which search engine to use.


Nice theory, but the data doesn't support it.

We have other sites (cooking.stackexchange, diy.stackexchange) that are much more representative of the population at large. Even on those sites, you see a similar ratio... the second largest search referrer sends 1.6% as much traffic as Google (about twice as much as it sends to StackOverflow, but still virtually insignificant.)


How does the distribution of traffic to the homepages look? One thing search engines do is search for new information, answers to questions and the like. Another thing they do is spell-corrected dns.

Since stackexchange is mostly targeted at the former, I'd expect your numbers to be skewed in interesting ways, which you could partially correct by looking at homepage visits to capture the latter use. (This is a big confounding variable whenever people try to measure comparative statistics between search engines. I've heard that Yahoo and Bing get many more one-word searches than Google, which are likely to be of the spell-corrected dns kind.)


Perhaps the selection bias is some combination of "understands how the Internet works / not willing to accept paid results in searches / looking for real facts and data" that lead users to use both Google and Stack Exchange?

Clearly Google has an obvious and overt lead in all categories, and all search. I'm not sure how you can refute that the set of visitors to one site is not a biased sample compared to all Internet users.

Your results are different than other published search engine use comparisons. If both are factual, then the measurements must come from different populations.


"Your results are different than other published search engine use comparisons"

Link please?

The traffic for my site isn't as extreme as the stack exchange, but I'm seeing 9 times more traffic from google than bing. This leads to the same conclusion that Jeff came to. If Bing stopped sending me traffic tomorrow I wouldn't care. If google stopped sending me traffic I'd lose nearly all of my traffic.


Not to mention that while at work many of us are limited in our choice of browsers. Until recently I'd probably arrive at SO via Bing, since it's IE's default search provider and my employer actively blocked installation of Firefox & Chrome.

Now that they're not doing that anymore, I'll arrive by google most of the time.


From expriance (I work for a big publisher) the split between G Y and B looks about the same for the big name sites I work with. Google is even more dominant 90%+ in the Uk


I agree developers are more biased towards Google (or away from Bing) than the general population. But I used to run a real estate website which crosses a wider cross section of the population than stackoverflow and all the non-Google search engines did an exceedingly poor job of indexing and delivering traffic to that site as well.


> I agree developers are more biased towards Google (or away from Bing) than the general population.

Are they? I can easily imagine it being the other way around. I don't see how general population would know about other search engines or even consider that Google != Internet.

But of course, without hard data the whole topic is groundless.


I am basically thinking that Bing 'sponsors' many other pages to use it as the default search engine so they will stumble across it.


It's interesting to see that DuckDuckGo ranks higher than Blekko - One reason could be that it promotes SO articles via the 0-click info box.


This is what I love about HN. Ask a question about Stack Overflow, Joel Spolsky gives you an answer.


If anything Google has gained some share since then. The biggest change has been that it continues to suck more and more traffic away with ads, YouTube listings, Google Places listings, shopping results, Google's in house affiliate ads, Google Books, and anything else that pays Google or keeps traffic on Google sites. It's gotten so bad that in many verticals it is impossible to find an organic result without scrolling. Like this for example:

http://www.seobook.com/images/ads-ads-ads.gif


I wonder why I don't get any ads above the "Related searches..." at all when I use the same query. I do use https://encrypted.google.com/ instead of plain google.com, maybe that affects the ads?

In fact, I've just searched for a bunch of queries that I assume would have plenty of bidders (NFL, football, harry potter, ipad) and none of them had any ads box.


I hate to be that guy, but are you sure you don't have adblock on? I'm logged in, tried encrypted.google.com, and saw the expected ad results for all of those queries.


It's OK, but I don't use Adblock. I do use NoScript, but all the domains for Google Search are whitelisted.


What I find interesting is that Stack Overflow has a really strong contingent of .Net/C# developers, so I assume these developers have a pretty reasonable investment in Microsoft technology, and not even they use Bing!


Many Microsofties don't even use Bing.


Even if Bing isn't all that popular with programmers, I'm pretty sure it would come in higher than Yahoo did in that list. As far as I know, Bing has actually had moderate success in getting some marketshare from Google, though nothing outstanding, and while programmers are not representative of wider demographics, you will probably see at least some of them using Bing.


My understanding of Bing's "success" is that much of it has been in contracted search -- setting up Bing as the default search service for specific sites and/or online services, or something like that. No, I don't know specifics, but it's similar to earlier games MSFT played with IIS numbers -- setting up IIS as the default "parking" domain for some large domain registrars.




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