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The point I'm trying to make (or get) is that EVs (or solar panels/wind turbines) don't actually do anything to actually fix the root problem - too much CO2 in the atmosphere. All of the emissions required to produce them in fact make the problem worse.

Even if the world ICE vehicle fleet was magically converted to EVs powered by carbon-free fusion power tomorrow, I fail to see how this will actually lower the CO2 from 414ppm.



Limiting ever more CO2 from going into the atmosphere is an important related thing to do alongside of the other (much much harder!) problem of removing CO2 from the atmosphere.


We are always limited to the best solutions we have on hand.

Since there's more than one person in the world, we can work on even better solutions while transitioning to the best ones we have, simultaneously.

What's presented by saying EVs aren't the final solution is the classic perfect being the enemy of the good dilemma weaponized to encourage waiting, stalling, and inaction. The actual material world impact of this type of policy is just delay delay delay as we sow in seeds of uncertainty to putz around without actually doing something.

This has literally been the oil playbook for decades. It's the same thing.

It manifests in many ways. For instance there is a leftist tech skeptic movement against electric vehicles that in practice is just reactionary conservatism. They use the classic Ralph Nader play to falsely claim that EVs catch fire more than ICE vehicles, focus on the egregious labor issues at EV plants and other classic tropes while simultaneously proffering some imaginary solution of getting rid of single family homes, suburbia and radically transform how people live overnight into a marvelous network of high speed rail by I assume, an actual magic wand.

This is the same tactic tobacco companies used: "4 out of 5 doctors (who smoke) prefer brand X". Just like this statement ignores that most doctors don't smoke, the sensationalization of Tesla ignores all of the problems of the rest of the industry or that there's many fine offerings of electric vehicles from other vendors. It's a wildly misinformed caricature.

In practice it produces the same stalling outcome - delaying the transition even more.

On the WSJ conservative end there's articles where someone rents say a $180,000 Lucid Air, drives like a maniac, goes to the most expensive charging options and then compares the vehicle with a used Toyota Prius to demonstrate how much more expensive electric vehicles supposedly are.

Learn to recognize the bullshit. It's important and the consequences are big this time.


That’s a technically correct but IMO too narrow view of the problem.

Reframe the problem as “how much atmospheric CO2 will be present in 2050?” and 2023 EVs do have promise to reduce that.




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