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> Elon's word is worth very little these days

His words are worth fine. Articles and second hand mangled version of what he actually says is worth nothing - I agree.

As far as this topic is concerned, demand for Tesla Semi is enough evidence.




> As far as this topic is concerned, demand for Tesla Semi is enough evidence.

The Tesla Semi is the Tinker Bell of automotive.


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> When people have to resort to this as the leading example of their argument, it's clear they've got nothing of substance left to argue with

Tesla and SpaceX are dependent on D.C. Elon was historically Teflon. Denying a gift to an opposition is delusional. It’s not going to tank the company. But it takes the good-natured response to his timeline optimism, and potentially re-frames it.


> Objectively untrue. His statements are weighed. They once weren’t. Buying into partisan pædophile conspiracies has a price.

He hasn't done that once. This is exactly the "mangled version of what he actually says" the previous poster was talking about.


He just called a person rescuing children from an underwater cave a pedophile.

https://www.npr.org/2019/12/06/785747858/los-angeles-jury-fi...


First off, it's almost 2023. He didn't "just" call that person a pedophile.

Also, the dude went to court - court found he wasted everyone's time, didn't pay him a cent.

Turns out you can't just charge people for defamation because of angry remark they may make.


You mean several years ago. And this should be a meme. Ok I was lying about Musk but what about the pedophile comment


Thank you for reinforcing my point.


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Tesla offered a discount in order to that people do not wait until buying in January when a new credit becomes available to people. And this is in a tiny part of the global market as well.

To jump from 'company offers discount' to 'company is dead' is literally the dumbest fucking argument I have ever heard. Seriously wtf.

Also they literally made record profit last quarter and are expected to make record profit this quarter all while still growing rapidly for a company this large.

Claiming Tesla is a dead company is really the height of idiocy. Like if you don't like Musk that fine, but really just denying reality because of that makes you look like very foolish.


> Tesla is dead as a company.

Oh one of you. Would be great if you spread this as far as you can and get the Tesla share prices to drop so I can buy them cheap. Cheerio ;)


They're spreading FOMO because they're short. They keep losing.



Yes. This incentive applies only to the US. Only for December. Only on certain variants of Model 3 and Y. All thanks to people unwilling to take delivery in December due to IRA kicking in on January 1, 2023.


So basically the days of people wanting to pay a premium for Tesla are over?




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