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Tailscale and the people building it continue to blow me away. The ingenuity, reliability, polish, and speed of feature delivery are unparalleled in software.

I'm eager to get rid of needing DDNS and open ports just for web hooks. And I can "flatten" my stack by cutting out a reverse proxy / weird port forwarding stuff.



Though, strictly speaking, all of that was already possible with ip6


Sure. I don't think tailscale does anything that's impossible through other means (cue comments about how anyone can recreate Dropbox with an FTP server, svn, and a fuse file system). IMO whats great about it is that it's easy to set up and is incredibly low maintenance (at least they way I use it).


Further, and to their credit theres a lot of great tech in there.

Just the other day I stumbled on DERP [1] their wireguard-over-tcp (over their node network) implementation which they fall back to if NAT traversal fails. While sure, this is partly ipv4 problem, it recently helped me connect with friends behind government firewalls, presumably because the packets aren't recognized yet.

But that sort of automated connectivity during nat traversal failure through a global network of edges isn't something you can easily setup yourself (if you care).

[1] github.com/tailscale/tailscale/tree/main/derp


It's about 40% possible with IPv6: https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html


And 40% * 40% = 16% if you're doing P2P.

IPv6 is an option, but not the one true answer (yet?). It helps sometimes.

For Tailscale, IPv6 helps about 7% of the time to bust a NAT connection.


Sad. Where's that other 16-7=9% go? Firewalls? Or do Tailscale's users have even lower adoption of IPv6?


The 7% is how often it ends up helping after all the traditional IPv4 traversal tricks.

We race all the options and see which works & is fastest. It's likely it's more like 16% or more (I don't have that number handy) in practice but 7% is just how often it would've not worked at all and had to go to DERP relays if it weren't for IPv6 being an option.


My ISP in a major US city straight ip does not provide IPv6


Neither did mine (Verizon Fios in NYC) until a few weeks ago. The rollout is very slow, but I’m confident someday you’ll have it.


My ISP in the Bay Area also straight up does not provide IPv6, you'd think this would be the center of adoption.


Possible if you have IPv6.




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