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According to the latest reports, SBF is potentially on the run on a private jet [0] from the Bahamas to (probably) Argentina. He hasn't been confirmed to be on that plane, but it seems likely. This stuff is straight out of movie.

[0] https://www.flightradar24.com/LVKEB/2e2e7cfd



If he is in fact on the run... Does this dude really think the CIA and FBI won't find him? He's likely not safe anywhere but Russia, China, North Korea or Israel.... maybe Pakistan.


No, not safe in Russia. From https://mobile.twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/15791389474472...

"In contrast, Russian cryptobros that I know tend to act very, very lowkey. The fewer people know about your activities, the better. Posting about dealing with crypto in social media is absolutely unthinkable. Why? Because that makes you too easy and lucrative prey"

That thread describes how a basement was found, in the house of an official in the Russian prison system, which appears to have been specifically designed for the capture and torture of crypto owners to give up their coins. It had its own crematorium for disposing of the remains.

If these guys think that they can take some coins and live a nice life in a place without strong rule of law, they have a nasty surprise waiting for them


How do we know the crypto owners were held there?

> 5. That may explain why Russian army and the military equipment are so archaic btw. In order to create something new, e.g. drones you normally need non-violent entrepreneurs who would actually create stuff. In Russia they're being wiped out by the violent ones. Hence, no drones

Iran has drones. Does that mean Iran is an example of "an artificial, abnormal environment which selected out the violent entrepreneurs, allowing the non-violent ones to flourish"?


The evidence is circumstantial, which is why I said "appears to be designed for" not "we know crypto owners were held there".

The more well attested point is that crypto owners in Russia don't advertise the fact, for fear of something like this.


What makes it appear designed specifically for crypto owners and not other people?


See my other reply in this thread


That post has zero evidence the fake prison is "specifically designed for the capture and torture of crypto owners."

For all we know it was used to torture political enemies with maybe the odd crypto bro on the side.


The design elements are: 1) it is designed to look exactly like a prison, so the occupant thinks he will get out. Thus, it is designed for extortion. 2) a crematorium is provided, anticipating the requirement to be used many times in a similar way.

This doesn't fit the profile of political enemies very well. 1) political enemies commit political acts, which can be extorted but not normally after you are dead. Crypto still works after you are dead 2) each political enemy would stand in a slightly different relation or context to you, which suggests a bespoke approach not a system. Crypto owners can all be processed in the same way


Well then, he's only got 3 to 4 other options. I'm particularly displeased by this situation. I got Gox'd thrice over. It hasn't happened in 8 years, so I'm not effected in this instance. However, I am just rather unhappy that it is still happening to folks.


Why would the CIA and FBI care? It's not like they are going to send Navy SEALs after him. This is a DoJ matter, and the most they will do is file extradition requests. If the country he is in decides to ignore them, well that's about it.


They wouldn't care. At this point crypto is simply a form of gambling.

And the people being hurt are more than educated about the risks they take.


He stole from rich people. Madoff made the same mistake. Parallel construction is how the CIA would be involved helping the FBI or foreign police to nab him. I'm just pointing out that his threat model has now increased by several orders of magnitude. He'll never get away from this unless he does an Epstein.


Why Israel? I’d assume they’d hand him over given their close background no?


There is a history of people committing crimes or being suspected of doing so in US and running away to Israel and avoiding extradition due to their laws.[1] I can gather more examples to illustrate a pattern or at least proclivity but it's late and I'm off to bed.

[1]https://digitalcommons.wcl.american.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?...


> There is a history of people committing crimes or being suspected of doing so in US and running away to Israel and avoiding extradition due to their laws.

Did you maybe forgot to mention that those people were Israeli citizens?


can SBF apply for citizenship once he lands there?


He is jewish, I'm wondering if the law of return would apply.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return


He could apply. It would be denied, of course.


Sometimes yes, but historically in general they haven't extradited their citizens for financial crimes against foreigners. I believe it changed a few years ago, at least on paper?


> historically in general they haven't extradited their citizens

How is that relevant?


> they haven't extradited their citizens

SBF isn’t an Israeli citizen, is he?


Interestingly enough, the plane seems to be headed for Buenos Aires, and there is LABITCONF (https://en.labitconf.com/), a crypto conference, going on there right now. Who knows if it’s actually his plane. Seems a bit weird that it would be given the plane is registered in Argentina.


But was he really in the Bahamas before? Or somewhere in the US

Argentina is an... interesting choice, and I'm sure he'll adapt just fine to the place and the bureaucracy and also there's no guarantee that's a safe haven in any way.

Edit: flight is showing as n.1 being tracked worldwide


Not disagreeing, but what's the basis for thinking that's a plane owned by/affiliated with SBF?




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