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> Mostly only illegal content should be removed.

And that's how you end up with a Nazi bar. Sure a swastica tattoo isn't illegal; nor is saying death to jews. But most people don't want to drink in that environment so if you don't kick (censor) the nazi's out then your business will not get non-nazi patronage (and maybe go under). The "free market" has determined that censorship is desired.




The entire purpose of the article is to refute this exact argument.


Eh, kind of. The distinction between moderation and censorship he uses doesn't really exist in a physical space. You can't set a flag in your profile to not see Nazis at the next table in the bar. Also, he explicitly avoids the topic of whether Nazis should be censored so they can't spread harmful ideas rather than just because they're unpleasant to be around, which is also applicable to the bar situation even if GP didn't explicitly cite it.


Nazi is a such an overused label that it is bordering hilarious. My personal experience shows that people wearing swastika tattoos are no more dangerous than those dressed openly LGBTQ+.

Evil is more nuanced and resourceful than that.


Is it possible that you're not in the groups that Nazis tend to discriminate against, and thus their behavior towards you doesn't feel dangerous?


The difference is that a bar is a physical place, you cannot isolate yourself from the Nazi on the next stool and shut your ears against his tirades.

In the digital space, filters work just fine. Your messages will live in the same database as the Nazi's, but you can be completely isolated from seeing them if you set up your filters accordingly.


This would work of nazi did not went out of their way to harass target groups. However, they do it constantly until those leave. And then they spread lied about those who left or attempt to move it into IRL.

These groups really like to spread lies about people and events. They love to manipulate third parties or institutions into attacking you too.


Active harassment should probably be a bannable offense, few people will dispute that. What they will dispute is the mechanism used for banning; AI is notoriously bad at discerning human intentions.


Even humans are bad at this, what would you expect of the poor AI.


> Sure a swastica tattoo isn't illegal; nor is saying death to jews.

Idk where u from, but here in Russia it's not only socially unacceptable but is also a literal crime which falls under incitement of violence and rehabilitation of Nazi ideology.


that's a great argument against such laws


There are plenty of neonazi in Russia. White supremacy is not exactly uncommon there. (And I am not even speaking about what is done by that state abroad here. Just internal groups.)


This is laughably incorrect. White supremacy is a Western concept.

Russians looking top-down on Caucasians (from Caucasus, not in the American sense of the word) or Central Asians is a thing, but there are nuances, e.g. the relationship with Chechens.


Or gypsies or blacks (the few they met) or non Russian whites ... especially Ukrainians. And the straight up hate toward anything lgbt including whole imported cultural war rhetorics. There is quite overlap in ideology, except it whole deal is more aggressive in Russia. I mean, I am talking about people who self define as such.

Like very seriously, I am not saying Russia has Aryan supremacists. But it has strong enough and big enough groups that are so similar in everything except who gets to be on top, that "white supremacy" is perfectly good descriptor in English speaking forum. And neonazi fits perfectly their group behavior. Down to similar symbolism and preferred music.


change the laws then...


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> people like you

I think that there is too many laws already... I was talking to someone else

People like you are probably working for the Government

Either way, you don't know what people like me are.




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