> You gave up using a programming language after a day? And Haskell after installing/building some dependencies for 20mins...
I'd do the same. It's 2022. There are so many options without this friction, why would you fight your way through it?
If either language had some magic power or library, that'd be one thing, but their only selling point is the FP paradigm, which is only arguablysomewhat better than what other languages do. Not only that, but most other languages let you do FP to varying degrees anyway.
Haskell's promise is not only FP. That's part of it though, of course, to have an ecosystem, which encourages to continue in an FP style. Haskell's promise is also strong type safety and, as a distinguisher to many langauges, lazyness by default. Aside from that, its implementation is quite performant, if one needs to worry about such things.
I will take a 20min build process for dependencies (probably a few commands, which hopefully are documented in the project's readme and probably only once for most of the lifetime of a project on your personal machine) over a language, that is quickly up and running, but breaks any number of basic principles (for example looking at JS) and lets me shoot myself in the foot. Some languages and the lessons we take from learning them are worth some initial effort. Of course it is not great, that things are not as easy, as they maybe could be, but if the language has other perks making up for that, it might still be worthwhile.
> but if the language has other perks making up for that, it might still be worthwhile.
Totally agree, I just think for the vast majority of developers, the trade off here isn't worthwhile. This is reflected in Haskell's stagnant growth despite it's model being better for a lot of things.
Sure -- people have the right not to try things, which is basically what messing around with a programming language in a new language paradigm for 1 day is. That's fine, although it should also be expected that their opinions on things they haven't tried won't be given much weight.
Day one experience matters a lot to most people. For better or worse, your community won't grow if newcomers have to spend a day hating things first.
It won't matter if you're looking for a language to make your baby for the next 5+ years, but most people are trying to solve small problems on an incremental basis.
I'd do the same. It's 2022. There are so many options without this friction, why would you fight your way through it?
If either language had some magic power or library, that'd be one thing, but their only selling point is the FP paradigm, which is only arguably somewhat better than what other languages do. Not only that, but most other languages let you do FP to varying degrees anyway.