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> In fact, they see it as an impedance to their goals.

Well, are they wrong?




Good point. But if democracy were not important, would they put so much work into undermining it?


Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: In order to obtain power? Hell yes!

I should note, lest anyone think I’m taking sides, that it is not overly difficult to follow US news closely enough to know that there are cheaters and creeps of all sorts trying to subvert elections and the law. It’s a rainbow of representation. All sorts of jerks are breaking and bending all sorts of laws and norms.

All y’all need an apolitical electoral commission, like Australia or Canada (and probably others) have. Heck, invite them over to run the next federal election.


You think both sides are equally at fault? how is that possible considering the number of people and actions on both political sides?


Did I say they are equally ar fault?

No. I said you can dig up scum of all stripes. Politicians, brain-washed groupies, social activists pro- and con-, the wilfully criminal who shed ethics for pay, and on and on. The problem is bigger than your myopic political bias, and its solution requires more than taking sides: it requires full prosecution of anyone engaged in unlawful shenanigans.


People on both sides are at fault. That does not imply "equally".


That's always the case, so you choose the best of the two options


This is not about choosing. It is about prosecuting. If one side commits more and worse crimes, they should get more prosecutions and stiffer sentences.


That would seem to make democracy pretty important, then.




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