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Since the keyboard is replaceable you could make your own and also sell to other like-minded people?


That's quite a bit more expensive than complaining on HN, or just buying a Lenovo


The HP EliteBooks (and the new Dev One Linux variant) also have trackpoints.

Just in case anyone's interested in making their own though, I've seen a few DIY trackpoint projects over the years (mostly on custom mechs, not laptop keyboards though). Here's a writeup on one: https://edryd.org/posts/tp-mk/


The problem with many of HP's laptops that have pointing sticks, including the HP Dev One, is that they lack a middle mouse button for scrolling and middle-clicking. All Lenovo TrackPoints have that middle mouse button, which lets you scroll with the TrackPoint when it's held down.

HP Dev One keyboard (no middle mouse button): https://media.graphassets.com/TdgqLuYTbeGM2oI8PWsV

ThinkPad Carbon X1 keyboard (with middle mouse button): https://www.lenovo.com/medias/lenovo-laptop-thinkpad-x1-carb...

A keyboard with a pointing stick and no middle mouse button is a waste. Hopefully, any pointing stick keyboard for the Framework Laptop will include this button.


That second link isn't working anymore. Here's another picture of the ThinkPad X1 Carbon keyboard, with three mouse buttons:

https://images.anandtech.com/doci/9264/Keyboard2.jpg


> The HP EliteBooks also have trackpoints.

Not anymore, they are gone with Gen 9 :(


> The HP EliteBooks (and the new Dev One Linux variant) also have trackpoints.

Are those supposed to be any good?

I have an EB Gen8 with one, but I find it horrendous. I'd like to know whether it's because I have no idea how to use it, or if my Linux setup is broken, or if the hardware is actually shitty.


I had a company provided 2019 dell at my last job and the trackpoint was barely comparable to that of a 2011 thinkpad. If that's the only trackpoint experience is that some people get I understand why they'd never touch one again.


No they don't neither do the Dells, these do not have negative inertia because IBM patented that.

And yes, there are DIY TrackPoint keyboards, I have a TEX Shinobi.




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