> We discriminated against blacks in the past, so whites and asians deserve to be discriminated against in the present. Is this your position?
White people took everything for hundreds of years. Then, they turned around and said "Oh look, we own everything but let's just forget about skin color now".
Discrimination resulted in massive inequality. The median net worth of a white family is $200k. The median net worth of a black family is around $0. (goes up to $20k if you count recent immigrants, it's $8 if you only count people who were shipped here as slaves).
My position is that, white people took it all. Now they need to share. It's not discrimination to say that you need to undo stealing for hundreds of years and start on a level playing field, before you forget about skin color.
The counterpoint is probably going to be something along the lines of, what if the median wealth of one family is that way because dad and mom were working 100 hours a week each, fed the kids ramen everyday, and the kid got no attention at all. Then you're comparing that to some family that ate cavier on their yacht everyday while their parents worked 20 hours a week in their medical practice and devoted the entire rest of their time to the kids education and taking the kids on bullshit "volunteering" trips to make the kid look like mother Teresa for his college and med school application.
Same family wealth, but clearly cavier kid had the leg up. Maybe better to compare full time wage or something? Personally I would dispense with both race and wealth as metrics.
What did Asians do? Were they involved in this taking of everything or should they just be clumped in as white because they don't meet the narrative that discrimination means you will be poor?
That's a interesting form of tribal mentality, that a group of people sharing a common trait has some persistent identity, a "hive soul", that commits crimes and can be held responsible by punishing any member of that tribe. That hive soul replicates itself by producing members with the same apparent trait, competes for resources with other hives and so on.
I don't believe such tribe souls exist, but one thing I'd agree with is that the moment a man makes a decision to benefit from some organisation or nation, he becomes entangled with it, like a bus passenger gets entangled with the bus, and faces consequences for the deeds of the organisation, whether it's "fair" or not.
I hear Liberia is nice. They speak English and persons of black color have held key political positions for over a hundred years. Former slaves held a great deal of the power there so that should be a great leg up for anybody who can't wait for the slow movement of the wheels of progress stateside. They've also codified white people can't be citizens, so that's one less worry in ways white folk can upset the country.
White people took everything for hundreds of years. Then, they turned around and said "Oh look, we own everything but let's just forget about skin color now".
Discrimination resulted in massive inequality. The median net worth of a white family is $200k. The median net worth of a black family is around $0. (goes up to $20k if you count recent immigrants, it's $8 if you only count people who were shipped here as slaves).
My position is that, white people took it all. Now they need to share. It's not discrimination to say that you need to undo stealing for hundreds of years and start on a level playing field, before you forget about skin color.