> I don't see why Vim commands would be any different from typing on keyboards, or playing a musical instrument. They are tactile, and rely on motor control.
They are not tactile and they don't rely on motor control. It's typing them on your keyboard that is tactile and relies on motor control. I make use of muscle memory to type these words, not to decide what to type. Learning Vim is learning how to decide what to type, learning how to type it or to type it quickly is just learning typing.
The "memory system" mentioned in that quote is definitely involved in learning and using Vim but the other "system" mentioned, the "motor system" only deals with _typing_ things. The real hero, here, would be the "language system" in charge of assembling commands.
> I see no reason at all why this should be true.
And yet it is.
> Does the tool let the learner use keyboard to practice memorizing the commands, and they produce the exact same effects as inside Vim? If yes, then by what claim do you say it is pointless?
The learner can do all that within Vim itself so why do it outside Vim, which is freely available and comes with an extensive yet very approachable tutorial that goes way beyond what is offered in those online knock-offs?
Again, the tool in question only seems to cover very basic topics that are not going to help anyone "master Vim" anyway so why bother with it at all?
And again, learning Vim, let alone "mastering" it, has nothing to do with muscle memory and rote learning at all.
Vim itself comes with everything one needs to learn it. Learn Vim in Vim.
> Are you mad that it isn't free? Just come out and say that.
Well, I noticed that it went from $25 to $10 between posts. Who knows? Maybe it will be free by the third repost? Whatever the cost, the claims are false and there are much better ways to learn Vim anyway.
> No need to attack him so strongly.
Persons curious about Vim don't really need to be fed outlandish claims and promises one can't deliver either.
They are not tactile and they don't rely on motor control. It's typing them on your keyboard that is tactile and relies on motor control. I make use of muscle memory to type these words, not to decide what to type. Learning Vim is learning how to decide what to type, learning how to type it or to type it quickly is just learning typing.
The "memory system" mentioned in that quote is definitely involved in learning and using Vim but the other "system" mentioned, the "motor system" only deals with _typing_ things. The real hero, here, would be the "language system" in charge of assembling commands.
> I see no reason at all why this should be true.
And yet it is.
> Does the tool let the learner use keyboard to practice memorizing the commands, and they produce the exact same effects as inside Vim? If yes, then by what claim do you say it is pointless?
The learner can do all that within Vim itself so why do it outside Vim, which is freely available and comes with an extensive yet very approachable tutorial that goes way beyond what is offered in those online knock-offs?
Again, the tool in question only seems to cover very basic topics that are not going to help anyone "master Vim" anyway so why bother with it at all?
And again, learning Vim, let alone "mastering" it, has nothing to do with muscle memory and rote learning at all.
Vim itself comes with everything one needs to learn it. Learn Vim in Vim.
> Are you mad that it isn't free? Just come out and say that.
Well, I noticed that it went from $25 to $10 between posts. Who knows? Maybe it will be free by the third repost? Whatever the cost, the claims are false and there are much better ways to learn Vim anyway.
> No need to attack him so strongly.
Persons curious about Vim don't really need to be fed outlandish claims and promises one can't deliver either.