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But are they buying Teslas?


Does it matter? Go try and buy a Tesla and see how long the line is.

People are buying teslas and the immediately flipping them for $10k of profit to people who don't want to wait. The demand for teslas right now is insane.


And Teslas are pretty crappy cars from a quality of workmanship perspective.

After testing several different cars in a lab, I got the sense that the people at Tesla know a lot about how to integrate technologies, but only possess the bare minimum viable knowledge base about how to build a car. Whereas the people at Toyota know an insanely ridiculously huge amount about how to build a car, but are risk averse with integrating technologies.

I will say that was a purely technical analysis however. It didn't include things like how marketing might effect perception for instance.


Okay what’s your point? People love Tesla. They want the cars so much that they’ll pay huge amounts of money to get them and even more to get them quickly.

Sounds like Toyota is good at making cars people don’t want. What does that say about Toyota?


It says that being trendy can be very profitable in the short term, but being boring and reliable works out well in the long term.

Consider that well over half of all Teslas have to go in for service within the first month of ownership. For such an expensive car, that is not a good look. Look at how many ex-owners now say they'd never buy another and refuse to recommend them to friends. Go ask GM and Ford how hard it is to regain a reputation that you have squandered.

I enjoyed my P3D. Mostly. It went like stink, which is why I bought it. Lots of misfeatures, though, and still missing obvious features every other car has. I'm in the camp of "won't buy one again, unless something big changes, the competition is better." and we are growing quickly in number.


Last year Tesla sold about one million vehicles while Toyota sold about ten million. Are you sure people don't want Toyotas?


> I know nothing about cars

Meanwhile in the real world "Tesla tops the list of most satisfied customers in the entire auto industry"



Maybe this is a long term play to try to get the people he's catering his message to to start buying electric vehicles?


Or maybe he’s just a jerk.


Yeah, that's probably the correct answer.




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