Why bother intruding into a discussion to announce how exhausted you are by it? It means nothing to us, and it's more effort for you. You could just ignore it and be less exhausted.
I'm basically telling you both to shut the fuck up because we're rehashing the same shit as forever.
Unless either of you are willing to engage in intellectually honest, curious conversation then you should honestly just keep your gob shut.
Flame wars help nothing, rehashing this helps nothing. We're walking in circles, save your energy, I'm wasting mine in an effort to save yours in future.
I made a couple points and it seems like you think that, based on those points, you know much more about what I believe than I even know myself, and hold a great deal of contempt for me and whatever it is I apparently believe.
I would love to have an open and inquisitive conversation. I am open-minded about how we structure our system. There are many considerations, and costs and benefits to any method. I do not think socialized or public structures are bad or inferior to private ones.
I do think it helps for people to be rewarded for their labor, but it isn't the only consideration, and it can be worked out in a range of systems.
