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Ask HN: What's your greatest enjoyment in life?
130 points by yesenadam on May 21, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 239 comments
What's the activity, state, location, situation - anything - that gives you the greatest enjoyment in life? The most pleasure, the most contentment, the most bliss, the most happiness. Or your top 3 things, if you can't choose just one. Thanks!



I will be tad shameless & mundane: I don't enjoy working after 9-6. No great intellectual side hobbies to burn the midnight oil. For me, two things give a lot of bliss:

1. Watching a new interesting show or a re-run on Netflix, sipping a cup of coffee (or having a few drags of vape occasionally).

2. Going on a long aimless drive with country music, and stopping somewhere along the coastline to enjoy the view of sea or ships sailing at a distance.

I don't have kids or pets. Living in Japan. The horrors of everyday dealing with GCP/AWS & Japanese office regimen needs occasional quenching by solitude.


I too live in Japan. You don't have to put up with the Japanese office regimen if you don't like it. My last and current roles have been at Japanese companies and I've been able to WFH for both. No guarantee you'll be able to rid yourself of GCP/AWS though.


This! Also live in Japan & work for a domestic company w/friendly work culture (no dress code, WFH common, flex time). Definitely look for something new if you’re not happy.


I have all the three you mentioned. The problem lies with staffing.

I am the only one who does their ETL, manage their database, build the backend and dashboard and pursue ML projects on 3D AR/MR at the same time. For them, as the 4X engineer I am shouldering half of the engineering workload


Get a new job? That would be the us solution, but could that work there?


what is GCP/AWS?


Google Cloud Platform / Amazon Web Sevices, probably


I’d love to hear more. This sounds good to me. How did you end up in Japan?


> How did you end up in Japan?

Quite simple. US became a nightmare towards the end.

As an immigrant grad student without much means, I couldn't support myself long. After my advisor cut off funding, I tried finding a job. I didn't have money to pay the bills soon after & US job process was getting long & convoluted with internal referrals, pointless rounds of interviews, HR meetings. I needed money to feed myself - I was skipping some meals to save money.

I had self respect not to work at a gas-station illegally or at one of the asian IT sweatshops by falsifying my CV. Japan government offered me funding at University of Tokyo & I grabbed the offer. Finished my PhD in CS with that opportunity. It has been 6 years and counting.

Here is one thing though: I earn comfortable now. But the trauma of poverty never leaves you. Even though I work in CS/ML, my life is pretty austere. I stick to the 'needs', and avoid the 'wants' as much as possible. Maybe it will take some years - or maybe these habits won't go. The one thing I never wish for anyone is hunger. Once you have lived through it, you won't want to be in that position ever again.


There's nothing wrong or PTSD-like about living below your means


It can be the "correct move" 10/10 times, and still be done out of learned fear for certain people.


> Here is one thing though: I earn comfortable now. But the trauma of poverty never leaves you. Even though I work in CS/ML, my life is pretty austere. I stick to the 'needs', and avoid the 'wants' as much as possible. Maybe it will take some years - or maybe these habits won't go. The one thing I never wish for anyone is hunger. Once you have lived through it, you won't want to be in that position ever again.

Congratulations on getting out of it tho! My father grew up pretty much piss poor with a single mother. His reaction to living in poverty is completely the opposite. He never keeps money and buys everything in excess. Probably a way to overcompensate and, as you said, to not want to love in that position ever again.


I'm reading your post with tears. I'm deeply touched by your last paragraph, actually I could feel your words. I'm an international student studying for a graduate CS degree in the bay area. The covid pandemic has made it really difficult financially for my family recently. Skipping meals has been my daily routine. I'm 6 feet but weigh around 130 pounds. Despite all these, I really enjoy coding. Like one of the other comment mentioned, I feel like being in the zone when I'm coding. Reading your post tells me I'm not alone. I wish I could go to Japan one day to meet you.


Thanks for sharing. I take it you’re not a Japan national to begin with. Do you plan on living there, planting roots?


Japan has been kind to me. I have a very comfortable life here. Plus, Tokyo would come up somewhere in the top of the list of desirable places to live. Maybe yes to your question. But who has seen life ahead of time. If you asked me in 2009, I would have said finishing my grad school in US and settling down in NY maybe. Plus, going back to US / Canada is not easy for foreigners, remote position or not.


How large is the language gap and how difficult is it to work in Japan as someone who, initially, doesn’t speak English?


In Tokyo, it is passably fine. Business communication is strongly preferred in Japanese. However, learning resources are many & people are generally helpful and accommodative. 20-30% will be proficient in English. I am told Osaka-Kyoto work setting is more traditional than Tokyo, so expect less foreign language fluency.

I wouldn't discount the difficulties of not knowing the local language. Living in Japan is not easy if you do not speak or understand Japanese. Every single form or application is in Japanese. All government related procedures are in Japanese. Banner signboards & instructions too. You'd miss out on several important bulletins e.g. tax instructions, license updation etc., if you read only the EN versions, as Japanese ones are more detailed & explanatory. One-to-one translation of information is not guaranteed with such documents.


Thanks a lot for answering. I‘m not even sure what to do after the (hopefully successful) PhD so I‘m thankful for every perspective.


I appreciate your grit. May I DM you for some guidance?


Feel free to. My email is in my bio. I am not sure how much I can help you but I will try answering your query(s)


Sure thing. DM as you desire.


I’m assuming you aren’t Japanese based on your Other comments. How has dating and your social life been in Japan.


Oof, that's the one thing I was hoping to avoid answering. But since you asked I will be honest:

I dated three women in past 5 years. The first, a dentist of same nationality as me. She was caught cheating with her senior. It was a body blow because I was an inch away from marrying her. The second was 7-8 years younger than me, and she left me when she moved to NY. It was unceremonious & rude, and given that I came to know about her new status from mutual friends rather than herself, it was bitterly humiliating.

I met a wonderful person - a local - while discussing music. We have been married for sometime now. We are not from the same field. That reduces friction & gives some opportunity for different perspective on work-life. No children yet but that's okay.

Social life is otherwise fine. I have a core set of friends, which I can count with my fingers. We meet up weekly & have dinner, usually on Fridays.


Being in the zone, whatever form it might take.

To me, the zone is any situation that makes the baseline pain of being alive go away (there's too much to unpack here, so I won't).

Things that can bring me in the zone:

* Riding my Honda CB750F, especially without a destination, just moving through the world in this raw, old-fashioned way liberates my mind and puts me at such ease.

* Coding something I like.. Again it's not entirely the destination that matters, it's the journey, the work itself that changes my focus from the mundane to the creative.

* Listening to great music while doing almost anything, including not doing anything.

* Watching a movie or tv show with my wife or a friend.

* Creating something, art or invention or utilitarian object, changing my environment to suit me.

* Unstructured time to myself with no immediate tasks that has to be done, so that I can entirely let go of any thought and just drift, having no plans whatsoever.. This is probably my favourite thing in the world, but also most difficult for me to achieve..


I am surprised sex is not in the list . You can certainly be in the zone while having sex


Sure, I find sex enjoyable, and surely I can get in the zone, but it's a relatively short time an hour at the very best and most of the time shorter, combined with being physically (and mentally somewhat) exhausting and takes some preparation both before and after, it's not a top contender for enjoyable activities for me.

Sure, it's an intense burst of pleasure, but I'd not want to spend 4-5 hours per day doing it, and time is definitely an important component for me, if I can do something for a long time and enjoy that time, that's like an enjoyment multiplier for me, I want something nice and to be in that nice place as long as I can.


Sex is very different to the activities he listed. His activities are all about feelings of calm focus, flow, almost meditative joy. You feel pleasantly recharged at the end of it.

Sex is usually very different and all about dopamine-like immediate intense pleasure, excitement, adrenaline. You can build dopamine tolerance and start needing more for the same 'kick'. Afterwards you can end up feeling more low than before due to a dopamine 'valley'. Then there is also the 'Coolidge effect'.

I suspect very different neurotransmitters are involved.

In other words, to exaggerate: the feeling of being in the zone you get from 'repairing stuff' is as similar to the feeling from sex, as the enjoyment of practicing calligraphy or meditation or tai chi is similar to taking heroin.


Too obvious, maybe overrated after all.


> Being in the zone

> This is probably my favourite thing in the world, but also most difficult for me to achieve

Came here to say this. For me I have to coax creativity and serendipity, it doesn't happen naturally. Action precedes motivation.


It's funny to me how I have about the same things than you. Changing your Honda to a mountain bike, and also adding "repairing things to prevent trashing it", and I would have my list.


Wow, actually, I should add MTB, but I've not had the energy/time the past two years, but I used to do a lot, we have a technical track nearby and that really puts me in the zone too, the gratification of achieving combined with the focus of not getting yourself killed..

Also, repairing stuff is something I absolutely love too! I forgot about that one. Even if I can't restore it to 100%, but often I can, and put my own spin on it, and it's very satisfying.


Anything where I can be a beginner again and experience the thrill of discovery. Doing something for the first time and together with someone that’s good at it and is happy to share their knowledge is so awesome.

As I get older I realize I have to keep switching it up. So one year it’s suddenly road cycling and I did 1000 miles in a year after doing probably 10 miles combined during the 10 years before. Also learned about bike maintenance as a part of that. Then 2-3 years after it happened to be mountain biking, lots of new skills to acquire there. Similar story with competitive video games, after not touching them for a decade or more I immersed myself in Valorant for a year and learned as much as I could about tactical FPS. Then 2 years after I switched from reading only 1-4 non-fiction books per year to reading several novels in a month. It’s odd, if you asked me 10 years ago I had a clear favorite video game, movie, hobby etc like “I’m a soccer guy” or “I love LOTR” - nowadays it’s weird, the excitement for things I’ve done often in the past is getting less and unless I make sure I find new pursuits it gets boring.


To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.


I was reading the other comments, rather seriously, reflecting, and got completely ambushed by your comment - actually LOLed hard - thank you :)


Source (Conan The Barbarian: What is best in life...?): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XUu3_pLPUE


Screenwriters for "Conan the Barbarian" (1982) might have got it from Part 2, Chapter XI of "Genghis Khan The Emperor Of All Men" by H. Lamb (1936).

https://archive.org/details/genghiskhantheem035122mbp/page/n...

  One day in the pavilion at Karakorum he asked
  an officer of the Mongol guard what, in all the
  world, could bring the greatest happiness.

  "The open steppe, a clear day, and a swift horse
  under you," responded the officer after a little
  thought, "and a falcon on your on your wrist to
  start up hares."

  "Nay," responded the Khan, "to crush your enemies,
  to see them fall at your feet -- to take their 
  horses and goods and hear the lamentation of 
  their women. That is best."


Related: to see their cities reduced to ashes.


Looking at the photos of Mariupol or old photos of Tokyo and Dresden, I just feel sorrow.


No


hello chengiz khan


Reference acknowledged.


When someone I care about has a problem and I’m able to fix it. Nothing else feels quite as awesome or meaningful.

Conversely, nothing else feels quite as terrible as when someone I care about has an unfixable problem.


How about when the job is bs? Like, they don't really need it, but they want it, and the whole process will be an excessive mess and expense, and they are definitely laying a foundation for future suffering, but their mind is set.


Ah, I think I’m talking more about helping friends and family and the like. Usually I can avoid helping with anything I think is going to be harmful in the long term.


Ya. I hear ya.

I was thinking clients.


Cliche, but good family time. Nothing beats a weekend where all my cousins, nieces and nephews are together. Its particularly fun now when all my cousins and siblings have kids and they’re all under four. It gets chaotic but also so much fun


This really is the best. It’s hard to describe why, but for me it’s some combination of freedom (from work and some childcare), nostalgia (from reliving old times), catching up, and just general family time.


Reckon some of it is also a sense of safety and security. I trust this group deeply and know they always have my back.

And of course with all the toddlers around, its just all around adorableness everywhere


Also perhaps the sense that a good future is being built for the younger ones.


You can go and live in the woods enjoying your solitude, but there is always that part in your heart that needs to be filled with being around loving human beings.


Easy one for me. Dancing to reggae music in front of a very good sound system. It's a fantastic sensation. Your entire body vibrating, compelling you to move in harmony with everyone else in the dance. It's the closest to a religious experience I ever get.

This video pretty much sums it up: https://youtu.be/AvKTMv4E09Y?t=99 Yes you need ear plugs.


Similar for me, but Drum & Bass or (nu-)metal. And most definitely seconding good earplugs.

Metal gigs with good moshpits and great crowds... If someone falls over, three people are hauling them back up onto their feet. Everyone looks out for each other.

Skindred do the "Newport Helicopter" where everyone removes an item of clothing and swings it around their head. Slipknot do a thing where everyone crouches down and then jumps up at the same time. It sounds stupid, but the whole crowd, already buzzing, exploding in unison is amazing.

Some of my gig buddies have tinnitus because they didn't look after their hearing though. Always earplugs.


For me it's all about goa trance, but I think the idea must be the same. Dancing is a sacrament in my nonexistent religion; I respect you as a co-practicioner from a different denomination :-)


Yep. When the vibes, sound system, tune and drop hit just right...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UxY5LonBIc&t=86


Having a meeting I don't like get cancelled.


This implies that there are meetings you actually like...


This is the dream we live for.


damn what a dream.


Driving. I have a simple 140 hp car now and I love just getting in and going for a drive.

I'm lucky to be living in S. California where yes we have traffic but gosh if you love nature and just enjoying scenery its amazing. Even if I'm stuck in traffic I've got views of mountains and all sorts of people watching. SO many cool spots to stop and explore.

I drive all around LA, and if I'm bored some weekend I'll get an airbnb in SF and drive up there along the coast. Put on some good music or podcast and just explore by stopping at different restaurants and pit stops.

I love driving. I can't wait for the day that people have space ships. I want to fly around canyons and then zip straight into space, warp jump to some other planet and explore it, before going home.

When I feel low, I grab my keys and wallet and head out.


The machine really matters. A Miata with the top down or a motorcycle is best. A giant insulated cage is less enjoyable.


Those are so very clichéd but that’s how it is.

1. Travelling - just going somewhere, taking a train ride, just being on the move, a trek, or a place even 80-100km from the city or sometimes closer; for 1-2 days, or few months at a stretch. I really feel I’m breathing more, feel like I am “alive” (I don’t know how else to say this), I feel genuinely and effortlessly happy when I’m travelling. I sleep better (!!), I write when I travel.

2. Playing sports - my daily badminton or cricket used to be by daily battery charges which came crashing down at the start of the pandemic. Or running (I count that as sport - I really like running)

3. Literature and world cinema


I can understand enjoyment playing sports with others, but even after a couple of years of running I never came to enjoy it. What’s the secret?


And why would running not be a sport?


no opponent. not interesting to watch.


Typically, this is the glib superficial answer a non-runner would have.

To a runner, you are your own opponent, your feet and the terrain the challenges and the elation and endorphin rush afterwards the goal/reward.

And watching running, well, watching capable elite runners glide effortlessly or outdoing themselves with a surge from deep within - it's kinda exhilarating just willing them on. And if that's not sport.. Not sure what qualifies :)


sure, a 100m sprint is interesting. running by oneself is kinda psychotic. one being one's opponent is quite a private experience not a spectator sport.


Never seen the Pamplona bull run?


For most content, helping people by writing code. Not that cringe enterprise code, nor the framework-based “nice” code. The one that does the thing just like a short, perhaps blunt, phrase makes a point.

Getting blackout drunk etc once a year with my less responsible friends and wreak a little havoc at the place. Sinking couch in a pool, terrace broken by falling/wrestling, next day investigations, you get the idea. Going off the rails helps with stress much better than vacation (unless it’s included into the setting).


so the couch was ruined?


Getting a little stoned and either turning on my audio synth stack or getting into unity 3D or bridging the two and fiddling with no goal until I find a groove and flow state and dig into turning different knobs and buttons and making sounds and images fold on themselves for hours until I'm in kind of a fugue state all the while bouncing audio and/or binary builds because even if I save the project well (which I do) I'll likely never be able to get the same output from the machines again because I don't know how I got to where I get to.

This hobby has it's seeds in creative habits I've had for most of my adult life but in the last six years or so I started to realize that it was the thing I enjoyed the most and it was really beneficial to my mental health and well being so I started making the efforts more deliberate and investing in gear and infrastructure to get closer to the dreams that have been in my head forever.

In a few weeks I have some long time collaborators flying in for a week long thing where the fruits of that effort are going to be explored hooking the 3D space to the musical stuff with some depth scanners, projectors, and fancy HD cameras and also two giant FANUC industrial robots controlled by the software stack and synths in tandem.

Follow your dreams kids! You too can make art that likely no one will care about but you and it will be awesome the whole time! It will be expensive and you'll never recoup the money spent... but if people don't look at you like you're a raving psycho when you tell them about your dreams, you probably have some room to have your dreams be more ridiculous. Also, it beats the heck out of remembering that people want me to build them web applications and my chosen profession is mostly a joke.


When you go outside for a minute to get the mail and your dog is SO excited to see you return as though you’ve been gone for ages. Impossible not to be happy in that moment.


That happens when you have small kids and you arrive home after work.


But the kids do grow up.

With dogs, that is eternal.


If we’re talking strictly about material goods, and excluding relationships, I’d have to say coffee.

It’s almost a meditative practice. I only drink one cup a day but there’s nothing else that really comes to that moment. Preparing it. Taking in the pleasant aromas. The warm feeling.


Falling in love and spending the rest of your life with that person. I came close but after 6 years, I realized it wasn’t my person. However, I did realize that’d be the most joyful activity.


Ditto. Fifty-two years and counting.


wow, congrats!


he loves his mum


Before 40: Discovery, revelation, the raw power of knowledge and provess.

After 40: A calm place, peace of mind, simple joys.


I crave for calmness in my life.


Words to live by.


I'm almost 40 and I can see that being true. Can you elaborate more on what that transition was like and how you noticed that what makes you happy had changed?


I'm 43 and I've found that while I love video games, the amount of effort required to learn a new game until some type of reward feedback is triggered is tiresome. I find that just being in the peace and quiet or watching a show especially one I've seen before with the wife is wonderful.


It feels more gratifying to watch walkthroughs.


I guess I realized that I already had what I was working for, or at least I became much more compromising.


I'm about to be a dad this year. Every day as the date approaches, I am getting more excited and scared at the same time. Never felt anything like this. I recall the pure happiness without an ounce of worry when I was a kid, and I also get happy that I might have a chance to give this to my kid. At the same time, I feel a lot of pressure that I will fall short of being a good dad. I am yet to experience being a real dad yet, but I think this really might be the greatest enjoyment in my life.


It might be. The child lasts far beyond 20 years and within that time frame there will be ups and there can be downs. Really bad downs. A child can grow up to hate you, be your enemy, become a criminal, become addicted to drigs. It is not a guarantee for happiness.

Statistically speaking though, when measured scientifically people in general are actually found to be overall less happy with kids. This is the scientific measure. But when you ask people directly whether or not they're happier with kids, they almost always say they are. It's as if they aren't fully aware about how unhappy they are with the kids.

It's really hard to define whether they aren't or are happier. Is delusional happiness actually happiness? Isn't all happiness some sort of delusion anyway? Hard to say.

Also keep in mind that although in general people are less happy with kids, there is also correlation with how well you're doing economically. If you're rich you're more likely to happier with kids.


> But when you ask people directly whether or not they're happier with kids, they almost always say they are. It's as if they aren't fully aware about how unhappy they are with the kids.

It's as if having kids rewrote the utility function of the person, introducing a bug to pass the test suite ("self satisfaction") to allow for a wider diffusion of the behavior ("I'm so much happier now, trust me it's wonderful!"), yet in a flawed way (i.e. that's not robust to scientific inquiry, as you observed)


To clarify the scientific inquiry that measures happiness is simply asking people how happy they were on a scale of 1 to 10.

On average people with kids would rate their happiness lower, but when these people are asked whether having kids made them happier they would say yes.

So are they happier? Not sure. Could be exactly as you say, but in one sense that bug may actually mean they are truly happier.


>> but when these people are asked whether having kids made them happier they would say yes

This can be quite easily explained by peer pressure - You are expected to treat children as precious little gifts from god, and speaking ill about them makes you look bad in the eyes of your peers.


Anecdotally I've asked close friends for genuine answers and from my perspective they seem convinced they are happier.

That being said I have also (fewer) close friends who have told me they are less happy. So you have a point.


They are in a situation they now cannot realistically change and that they are 'supposed' to enjoy. There is a lot of pressure to convince themselves they are now happier 'overall', even if actually each of their days is now less happy.

The fact is, you will encounter plenty of misery in life regardless. You should not choose based on what makes you happy, but arguably based on what kinds of misery you are more suited to - the misery of having children or the misery of not having children.


I'm sure that there are people that genuinly create happines from interacting with and having children. Just like there are people that takes pleasure in hurting themselves. The real tragedy is You cannot know which one are You until is too late.


There are multiple types of happiness, eg present short term mood vs overall life satisfaction.

In your study parentd give a lower 1-10 ranking when asked how they feel in a particular moment, on random timers.

When cleaning up shit of someone you love, sure it sucks at that particular moment but your life's full of meaning.


I'm not sure I buy that - Humans can create meaning out of everything - You do not need children for that (there are some that spend years meditating in literal caves and claims that their life is also full of meaning).

So given that we can have two persons with life full of meaning, one of which is feeling down most of the time, and both of them somehow selected this life for themselves - its not quite hard to point at not having children as a better way of life. I speak of course from the point of view of me/solicity - others should have as many children as it is required to keep my precious useless stuff mass produced overseas to keep numbing consumptionism continuing until nothingness takes me back.


This is true, but if you think in terms of evolution and natural selection we should be biologically inclined to have certain desires that motivate us to have children above other desires. "Meaning" is more of a creative term, but in actuality much of how we behave is dictated by biology.


For biological inclination, a sex drive is all that's required to ensure children are produced. Biology doesn't care if you are happy or not afterwards.


A bit of interesting off-topic : I think its a disservice to general knowledge propagation to use personification when taking about systems. People can care, biology and systems in general cannot, they simply have consequences. I blame Richard Dawkins for this (and his very badly titled Selfish Gene)


Caring is part of the system. It is an aspect of the system that only exists because of the system itself. To refuse to analyze this is basically lying to yourself. EVERYTHING is a system.


The children must grow up and reproduce successfully. Not just you... but your children must reproduce as well, so thus you have instincts that shift to forwarding as much resources as possible towards your children.


The parents were asked about long term overall life satisfaction of course. This is obvious. Humans can rate their overall happiness even when their current situation is temporarily not that great.


> parents were asked about long term overall life satisfaction of course

Not in most of the studies I've seen. Here's one that does:

https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1080/17439760.2013.830764

> for parents, the more time they spent taking care of children, the more meaningful their lives were. (Time spent taking care of children had no relation to happiness and if anything trended toward reducing happiness.)

> These findings illuminate the so-called ‘parenthood paradox,’ which is that most people want to be happy and want to become parents, but those two goals are in conflict insofar as becoming a parent often reduces happiness (e.g. Twenge, Campbell, & Foster, 2003; cf. Nelson et al., in press). Baumeister (1991) proposed that the parenthood paradox can be resolved by proposing that people seek not just happiness but also meaning, and so, they become parents because the gains in meaningfulness offset any losses in happiness. The present findings are consistent with that conclusion


Becoming a parent means that you now have a person whose wellbeing is more important to you than your own happiness. I don’t think it’s a contradiction to say (a) that I’d be happier if my daughter had never existed, and (b) that I don’t care about (a) one bit.


The real test is if you'd say the same thing given knowledge that you would be unhappy before you had your daughter, and which answer would be more valid? The answer now or the answer you would give before you had your daughter?


- If I were offered the choice to wind back the clock and have her not exist, I wouldn't choose it, even if it would make me happier on the whole.

- If I were to travel back in time and convey that information to my past self, it would make him want a child more, not less.

- If you were to travel back in time and tell my past self "I talked to your future self, he said he'd probably be happier without a kid," and he believed you, then he might choose the opposite path. But that's because you didn't give him all the information.

In other words, given full and accurate knowledge of this future, I would not choose the other future. Once you're a parent you can never not be a parent again, not even in a hypothetical multiple-worlds time-travel scenario.


>Once you're a parent you can never not be a parent again, not even in a hypothetical multiple-worlds time-travel scenario.

This is not true at all. It's not a logical answer. Based of what you just said above, I believe you are being honest but I believe your biases are creeping into the answer and therefore cannot trust it. I'm sorry.

The reason is because if you erased your memory of being a parent with time travel, you actually CAN not be a parent. This is a very legitimate possibility for anyone. You are letting your emotions interfere with logic.

That being said, I am interested in this:

>If I were to travel back in time and convey that information to my past self, it would make him want a child more, not less.

You would tell your past self that you would be less happy, but you would be able to convince him to have a kid regardless as if he could understand your reasoning through you simply communicating vocally to him. My question to you is why didn't you try communicating this knowledge to me? Why do say vague things like "Once you're a parent you can never not be a parent again" without clearly elucidating the logic behind it? I am very much interested in this logic and would like to hear it despite the fact that I think you're answer has the possibility of being biased.

If your logic is convincing then of course you're not biased and I am wrong. But honestly right now because of what you said, it just appears you're biased, but I would very much like to be proven wrong.


> "Once you're a parent you can never not be a parent again" without clearly elucidating the logic behind it?

It's a simple sentence. Your comments feel tiresome and pushy.

Once you're a parent you can never not be a parent again because that kid is simultaneously a part of you, potential manifestation of all your dreams and hopes that you can't or won't accomplish, they're your friend, companion, confidant. They're here to stay. You understand them and they understand you like no one else does. You're same blood. It's powerful, deeply ingrained set of thoughts and feelings that you can get a hint of sometimes but can never experience fully until you make your own kid.

All previous statements have varying degrees of truth for most people, hence the fear of having family and children, esp. coming from non ideal backgrounds.


>> potential manifestation of all your dreams and hopes that you can't or won't accomplish

And this is how You get tiger moms ladies and gentlemen (only half joking - Your child is first and foremost independent human and not extension of yourself).

>> You understand them and they understand you like no one else does.

I think I have never seen this in my life - where do You think generational conflicts comes from?


i'm with u bro. these dads seem to live in some cuckooland. wait till the kid asks them to fuck off and let them live their life their way.


Probably is pushy. Don't worry about it. You can just not answer. Up to you.

Either way, Thanks for the answer but your words would not convince me to have a kid if the result of everything you said meant that I would be significantly unhappier.

This is really what I'm driving at: What is it can you actually say to convince someone who's not a parent to become one despite the fact that it will make you significantly unhappier.

I mean you explained why you can't stop being a parent, you've explained the benefits of being a parent but you haven't explained why you should start being one despite knowledge of NET unhappiness in the future.


>If you erased your memory of being a parent with time travel, you actually CAN not be a parent.

We're talking about memory erasure plus accurate knowledge of the future. The combination is different from memory erasure by itself. Not knowing what parenthood is like, I would choose to become a parent - I know this because that's what actually happened. Accurate knowledge of the future would not change that decision, for the reasons I gave.

>You would tell your past self that you would be less happy, but you would be able to convince him to have a kid regardless as if he could understand your reasoning through you simply communicating vocally to him. My question to you is why didn't you try communicating this knowledge to me?

- I'm not convincing him, I'm merely conveying information. I have nothing to gain or lose, and I already know what he's going to do absent the information.

- He could understand my reasoning because he's me, I know everything about him, and he trusts me implicitly because I have nothing to gain by deceiving him.

- I can't trust you to convey my thinking accurately because you are biased by your own worldview, as am I. He can't trust you either. Therefore any information you give him would be imperfect, tainted by the impossibility of communication between different people. My point is that only that kind of imperfect information might change his behaviour.

>your words would not convince me to have a kid if the result of everything you said meant that I would be significantly unhappier.

Who said anything about convincing you? Past me is already inclined to have a child, whereas you appear to be quite against it. Moreover, it would be very irresponsible of me to convince you to act against your own self-interest. But I will attempt it...

Some axioms:

1. A quiet, uneventful, comfortable life with amiable companionship is the epitome of happiness.

2. Happiness is not the only measure on which the quality of a life can be judged.

3. It is possible for two equally logical processes with different sets of priorities to arrive at contrary conclusions.

Say that tonight, Mephistopheles appears in your room and offers you the chance to travel throughout space and time and learn all the secrets of the universe. Being all-knowing, he also tells you with undeniable authority that saying yes will make you somewhat less happy than saying no. What would you say? I would say yes without question. My curiosity is more important than my happiness.

Say that tonight, Beelzebub appears in your room and offers to take 50 points off your IQ in exchange for serene ignorance of all that goes on around you. You will live out the remainder of your life in physical comfort and absolute, beatific bliss in a centre for the severely disabled. What would you say? I would say no, without question. My ability to perceive the world is more important than my happiness.

I use the metaphors of knowledge and curiosity because I expect they will appeal to your sensibilities. The set of priorities that led me to becoming a parent is unique to me, and I doubt you would find it convincing, so I will not spend time typing it out. But perhaps the metaphor will open your mind to the idea that happy is not always the best thing you can be.


Your metaphor has not convinced me because I would choose no. I'd rather be happy then smart. But I get what your saying.

But here's the thing. I cannot be happy knowing that I made that choice. I have to be completely unaware that I chose to be stupid. Total ignorance is bliss.

Anyway. What you chose not to type out is literally what I'm trying to understand. It's fine though, I think it's likely hard for you to pinpoint what it is in words. We can leave it at that unless you think up another way to say it. Thank you again for the metaphor.


i'm sorry for u bro. human relationships are overrated.


Congrats, you got this. Being a dad has brought my life joy and meaning beyond words. You'll make mistakes, we all do, but keep loving them, and your spouse, and you'll do great.


Our little guy just passed his first birthday and it's been such a fun and stressful time. I think the fact that you're concerned about being a good dad means you'll do well. For me anyway, that feeling of pressure grew but so does the enjoyment and fun! Congrats and enjoy it!


Writing science fiction and fantasy novels in the German language that I self-publish [1] - not that I have many readers, but the process of writing them is what I enjoy most. Programming is a close second place.

[1] https://talumriel.de


Right now:

- BBQing. My partner is vegetarian so I drastically reduced the amount of meat I'm eating. A few weeks ago, I finally made the jump and bought an electric BBQ. Eating a good piece of meat from the butcher on my balcony is amazing

- Tinkering with a Raspberry Pi after years of not doing anything technical

In general:

- Dancing at a concert/music festival

- Listening to music and find new favorites that I'll end up listening on repeat

- Being on a beach in front of the sea, ocean, taking a breath and feeling more alive than ever

- Riding a motorcycle in the spring/summer. I'd love to try an electric one.


For Tennessee style BBQ:

Get a big roasting pan, say, an inexpensive granite roasting pan good for roasting turkeys. It will come with a cover, but don't need that for BBQ.

Get a wire rack to hold the meat. The rack will likely be adjustable and form a V shape. Right, put the rack in the roasting pan.

Get a fresh pork Picnic shoulder, ~9 pounds raw. That has the upper bone of the front arm. Higher up is the shoulder and called the Boston Butt. It can also work, but the Picnic shoulder is a little easier in separating the cooked meat from the fat, bone, and skin, especially the fat.

From a Picnic shoulder, might get about 51% of its weight in final, cooked, lean meat ready to eat -- at current prices, cost might be about 22 cents per ounce. My trials and arithmetic have the cost per ounce of cooked BBQ within $0.01 per ounce the same for either a Picnic shoulder or a Boston Butt.

Unwrap the pork (Picnic shoulder or Boston Butt), place it on the V rack in the roasting pan, insert a meat thermometer into the meat, place the pan in an oven at 200 F, and cook, ~19 hours, to an internal temperature of 175 F. So, the 200 F and 19 hours are an example of "low and slow".

Separate the results -- put the meat in containers, say, covered plastic 2 quarts each, and discard the fat, bone, and skin.

Can freeze or refrigerate the containers.

To eat, measure out what want, say, with some little electronic scales. Three ounces of the BBQ meat makes a meaty sandwich. Bring to room temperature, say, via 30 seconds in a microwave oven. Use a dull knife to chop the pieces and have the fibers separate a little like pulled pork. Then chop with a sharp knife to pieces suitable for a sandwich. Add favorite BBQ sauce and/or hot sauce. If want smoke flavor, then use a BBQ sauce with smoke or just add from a bottle of liquid smoke. Likely add some salt. Mix. Cover. Warm in microwave. Eat on hamburger buns or just toast.

East Tennessee likes pulled pork; West Tennessee is happy with chopped pork. Pulled means the fibers have been given more separation. What I have is some of both. With this version of "low and slow", the fibers will be well separated anywhere in Tennessee or anywhere else! The BBQ sauces used in East Tennessee seem to have more vinegar than, West Tennessee.

Notice that this procedure is especially simple: So, no outdoor smoker, no charcoal or other fire, no BBQ rub coating, nothing injected into the meat, no sauce during the cooking, and all the sauce applied only just before eating. To my taste, works fine.

If want, on top of the BBQ in each sandwich, add coleslaw. Simple coleslaw: Shred a head of fresh green cabbage. Add any bottled ranch salad dressing and mix. My experience is that this combination will keep well in the refrigerator for weeks.

Good shredding of just the cabbage alone is not easy to do. If the shredding is not fine enough, then just chop the results with a sharp knife.

Simple! Nearly fool proof. Proven -- I've been doing just this with good success for a few years now, with no more changes for the last few months. I have 10+ pounds of the results in the freezer now!

The BBQ sauce I use is Cattleman's Base BBQ Sauce Smoky in one gallon jugs I get from Amazon. And I add some Frank's RedHot hot sauce intended for chicken wings. And I do add salt and do top the BBQ in each sandwich with coleslaw.

If you do well separating the fat and look up estimates of the number of food calories per ounce of the cooked lean meat, might get a number about 40 -- surprisingly low. However, the ranch dressing isn't just a lot of buttermilk but has a lot of salad oil and a lot of calories per tablespoon.


I have an infrared grill. It's really good and I use it more than my frying pan.


Zero FX. Get one! Won’t be disappointed.


Being healthy - don't know what you got til it's gone


Ever since I had pretty significant health episode, I think a lot about the saying that goes “a healthy person wants a million things, but a sick person only wants one thing”


Rock climbing, especially here in BC. I’ve dedicated much of my life to it. I was walking out of Skaha Bluffs around a week ago and realized I hadn’t been that happy in months.


I would second that, outside rock climbing is pure bliss.


Writing songs - it's like the ultimate game, math puzzle, writing problem with a single rule: make it interesting! And it's as hard or easy as you want to make it.


Whilst not my "greatest enjoyment in life", reading this thread has been very enjoyable.


After waking up and showering, making coffee with V60 drip filter and sitting on the couch and drinking it in silence.


One of the nicest things about learning to enjoy simple things is that you know they can't be taken away!


At times, any of the following. In no particular order:

~10-15: climbing trees, running, bikes

~13-18: writing software, studying physics, hacking, wardriving, gaming

~16-25: nightlife, relationships, running, driving, exploring all sides of the world

~26-28: nothing, most of the time; playing squash before the pandemic

~29: climbing boulders (esp. sending a route after many unsuccessful attempts), driving electric scooters, exploring different places while working remotely


Horses.

They're cute, smart, interesting, kind, bring you back to the present like nothing else, and there's so much you can live with them, from quiet to high energy moments.

Working with them (the right way) forces you to learn patience, communication, emotion management and to curb your ego.

I would say, of all the strong defining events in my life, horses brought me the most and the best.


Love, love and love. Not only did it give me great enjoyment but also great motivation -- actually the only, real motivation.


Getting high on opioids and frequenting the most crowded area of my city, conversing with strangers with a complete lack of anxiety and boundaries, learning about their lifes and struggles, it's very novel to me.


I hired a boat recently and took it around the Greek Islands. Beautiful weather, calm water, nice food and music. Happiest I'd been in a long while


could u tell more? motorboat or sail? do u need a 'driving license' of sorts? what sort of costs? tia.


Seeing my investment portfolio go up by more than what I spend in a given year. Suffice to say 2022 hasn't given me that enjoyment (*yet*, haha).


Home in the summer. For me, that's a particular chunk of New York State that's full of lush greenery, strong winds and particularly severe rain and thunderstorms. There's nothing quite like standing barefoot in the grass while it's raining so hard you can barely see 10 feet in front of you.


* waking up on a sunny spring morning at the weekend, with no particular plans, and successfully putting all worries and concerns about both my own life and the wider world out of my mind. I make a coffee, I watch the birds in the trees outside the kitchen window. I quietly play the acoustic guitar for a bit. Most mornings are not like this, for one reason or another.

* noticing that after much practice I've gotten a tiny bit better at something (guitar, windsurfing, bouldering, anything really), and successfully putting all concerns about comparing myself to other people out of my mind.

* spending much of the day running/cycling/hiking/mountain climbing/windsurfing, getting back exhausted, and opening a cold beer

* sitting in a bar on holiday some place, with a small group of friends

Things that on balance do not bring me contentment or bliss, despite being popular answers here:

* conversations with intelligent, thoughtful, moderately attractive women. A brief period of contentment is followed later in the day by the slightly crushing knowledge that they are inevitably at least one of a) taken b) out of my league, and usually both.

* software development. I try to find enjoyment in the problem solving aspect, but all the scrum meetings, JIRA tickets, code review pettiness, and corporate hierarchy make me want to go and live in a cabin in the woods. Outside of work I no longer wish to have anything to do with computers.


It's so simple but: having a drink with some friends.


Roaming around the city and visiting places with my friends.

Being cared and loved by the person you like.

The feeling of contentment before sleep when I was productive on that day.


Going back to sleep when I ought to be waking up.

When a bug finally yields to me after putting up a good fight.

When a live performance I have a hand in is sticking the landing on its most technically complex and artistically powerful moments.


Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, hanging out with family, learning how to build and machine with metal. Computers and learning about them used to bring me a lot of joy. Programming, then reversing and app sec, but I don’t have the same passion for that I once had. I still enjoy computers, but they are lower in the list. Basically, problem solving, but with new angles :)


My health and physical ability, while I have it.

Everything else is secondary.

Among those secondary things are - good coffee, getting into a flow and coding, new technology, and getting into bed at the end of a productive day.


Getting 50 pages into a new book, realizing it's really good and I still have 450 pages to go. Bonus points if it's a new (to me) author with many other works available.


I had that feeling about Neal Stephenson.

It was Cryptonomicon, so I had about 1000+ pages left, and multiple books.

Oh, I am so glad that I discovered Stephenson. And I have HN to thank for that.


Your greatest enjoyment in life... So the most upvoted post chose the flow state in order to momentarily forget the existence of suffering that is life and the second most upvoted post chose Netflix and aimlessly driving around in the car. I wonder if this indicates something about the state of modern society.


* My cats coming up to me to "check in" with a happy cat sound before going back to watching the birds on their balcony.

* Back scratches

* Publishing a new story after weeks or months of work


To crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and hear the lamentation of their women.

And watching Encanto with my daughter.


* Health

* Spending time with family

* Coffee

* Biking to work with my ebike on a protected bike lane along a river at 30mi/h

* Sunday volleyball on the beach

* Bouldering

* Technical reading (eg ML books)

* Playing pubg with friends every Friday

* Seeing passive income arrive in my account


Spending time with my family and extended family, getting them all together, watching my kids and their cousins play.

Working on hard problems and achieving flow state.

Mountain biking.


This one evening, my two friends and I were debating if we should go paddle boarding. When we eventually made our way to the lake, it was 7:30PM and the last two folks were leaving. We decided that we should do it anyway since we came this far. We paddled our way to the middle of the lake, and watched the sunset. We tied our boards together, I was laying down and looking at the stars while my two friends had some drinks and talked. We saw lightning bugs, heard frogs croaking, and birds chirping. We realized that in the entire city of 3million it was just us three in this lake.

I get most bliss from kayaking and paddle boarding at nights with my friends.


Watching either of my daughters achieve some new milestone. Today was cartwheels.


Holding my child as she sleeps


I know it's a cliche but having a child has made a lot of activities very enjoyable - having him help clean, teaching him how things work, and answering questions "Daddy what the biggest number there is?"

But those cliches aside I enjoy digging up food I've grown, and eating it. I enjoy baking bread - sometimes it looks awesome, sometimes it looks terrible, but it almost always tastes good enough to make the effort worthwhile.

And alongside those activities drinking a cold beer inside a hot sauna, with a naked body or two for company is something that is hard to beat.


For me quite mundane: 1) Enjoy a cup a good green tea in rest time and with a good view: the flavorful aroma, the light sweet aftertaste is a bliss! 2) Code something I enjoy: sometimes is it a problem came up from somewhere, sometimes is it a challenge, other times something beautiful to watch and enjoy. 3) Watch the children playing and laughing.

When I have good access to nature, I'd like a walk or a stroll, too but where I'm from, it's quite faraway and unfortunately not in a pristine shape.


1. Spending time with wife & son 2. Inventing new idea and seeing/making it coming to life. 3. Learning and really getting some new fundamental idea about the world


(1) Family at Thanksgiving, Christmas, or Easter.

(2) Making it through the worst bottleneck in civilization, bad documentation of computer hard/software, and then getting my software that uses that hard/software to work.

(3) A new, really good performance of some of the best music of the top few classical music composers, Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin, Wagner, Puccini, Verdi, Tchaikovsky.

I would list proving a new theorem or making a successful application of some theorems, but that pleasure was ruined for me: I had a good background in math (career, independent study, college) and computing (career) both a good career and a good marriage going, and my wife, brilliant, PBK, etc., and I decided to go to a famous research university and each get a Ph.D. When we left I had been in a multi-year, highly threatening, bitter, no holds barred bar fight with lots of jealous professors. That I (a) by far led the class in the department Chair's flunk-out, filter course, (b) did the best in the class on 4 of the 5 qualifying exams (c) in two weeks independently did surprising, publishable research (later published), and (d) had good progress on my dissertation research when I arrived and easily, quickly completed the research independently all just made the fighting more bitter. It appears that the fighting caused 5 of the professors, including the department Chair, to be fired. And there were at least 3 more profs fighting me. One of the profs, famous, I happened to meet some years later, and he still wanted to fight with me. My wife was treated poorly, for the first time in her life of a brilliant, spotless academic record, and the stress put her into a depression and a clinical depression that proved fatal. When we got our Ph.D. degrees and left, my career was junk, my marriage was junk, my finances were ruined, and my wife was fatally injured. Three profs tried to be nice to me, and two of them taught me some good things, but nearly all the rest of the profs I knew just tried to destroy me. And one of my wife's profs tried to destroy her. So, tough for me to get much pleasure out of research or applications of math. Weekly the university sends me requests to send them money -- HA!!!!

Solution: Take advantage of the current fantastic, historic opportunities of computing and the Internet to pick a niche problem, find a best solution for the niche, write some code, do a startup, solve the problem. So, sole, solo founder, 100% owner, with no teachers, profs, managers, BoD, or investors over me. Users interact with my Web site and nearly never with me. Revenue? Run ads I get from ad networks, etc. One more instance of revenge of the nerds!


Growing closer to God.


Getting a full 8 hours of sleep. In school day I have to sleep from 10PM to 5:30AM. Only 7 and a half hour of sleep.

In those days, I feel like I'm being hunted by a tiger.


Gardening, followed closely by woodworking


Gardening is my greatest joy, and has been for over a decade.


It would be great to see some HN gardens. Do you style au-naturale or go for autonomous systems for irrigation? What about germination/grafting/cloning? Tackled microscopy? Entomology?


I work in Healinggardens.co. Check out some of those gardens we have. Also very curious to see gardens by other HNs


Great mission. LA has some excellent gardens, would love to see more. I enjoyed Huntingdon in Pasadena although the transplant-the-Japanese-structure-as-garden-feature thing struck me as slightly late/postcolonial, library-in-garden is definitely a feature (not a between-the-pages, accidentally pressed bug).


Working day and night on some light bit of code, while blasting k-pop or old school punk rock. Doesn't necessarily have to be coding; it's often just tweaking themes or playing with animations or particles.

It doesn't necessarily make for a great career though, because much of the job is unrelated and you don't really get to work all night. It was fun to do something, fall asleep, then wake up and continue.


Seeking out, visiting and documenting tiny museums. The smaller the better. It's a hobby I picked up a few years ago and it's endlessly rewarding, because it turns out there are tiny museums absolutely everywhere once you start looking for them.

I have over a hundred that I've visited on my website https://www.niche-museums.com


Take a bike ride around Tokyo to find a not-so-well-known park, set up my hammock and read while drinking a few craft beers.


Being outside, in nature. Especially mountains or the sea.

Music comes second, especially live.

Both are usually improved if I’m with people I’m close to.


Learning how my sales taxes go to supporting or preventing things.


Listening to a good album - start to finish - on good HiFi.


Sleeping and eating.

Two basic biological needs. Every time I eat or sleep it's like the first time.

It's all I really want to do.


Recently… meeting women on Tinder. Found my last two fiancés and current girlfriend that way XD


Is this... meant to be a commentary on the nature of relationships that start on Tinder?


Well… I’m 50% of those relationships, so… yes?


Watching my son grow/develop/flourish. When my cat climbs on me and purrs. The moments when you're playing music and you enter a state of flow. Pushing through difficult phases of learning new skills and coming out on the other side.


A good DOMS stitch from bodybuilding. A smooch from my cats. A good italian flag cookie or vietnamese egg custard. A good k-hole. Discovering new maths and new inventions. Building products which help people live better. Watching the world burn.


Music - I'm a pianist. There's a state of mind that I get into - maybe it's a so-called flow state - where I can become like a 3rd party observer and watch the improvement - even just the problem-solving process - as I practice.


My daughter.

Nothing comes close.


I - I feel like nothing, really.


Enjoying the effortless clarity and immersion that comes from not drinking coffee.


Coding, especially small side projects.

I’m in my early forties and it still gives me the same joy as it used to in my twenties, if not more.

It’s ok and healthy for a developer to stop coding after hours. But I don’t want to, at least not yet!


Using machine tools to turn metal into chips is way more fun that it should be for me. I hope to get a small machine shop up and going.

I liked editing my yard when I could. It's another summer of frustration as the Virginia Creeper and Weed Trees take over while I'm incapacitated, again! (Eye surgery this time) I'm hoping to get back out there by August, kill off a few hundred trees, and recommence the great edit.

In general, creating and curating things are the bees knees. Taking an idea, and bringing that into the world is fun as heck.


It feels so good to see publications that focus on people before their shirts and ties.

For me, there are several things that make me very happy:

- Getting calls from my parents

- Having a cocoon of friends that is like a second family

- Feeding on life's imperfect or dysfunctional experiences to build oneself (family or couple can be dysfunctional and it is these experiences that bring a form of joy when we overcome them together).

- Seeing that our actions have a positive impact on people's future (I make educational videos for embedded developers).

- Oh and chocolate too, a simple pleasure, but so effective


Having a great conversation about interesting subjects with a smart knowledgeable person. Ideally while walking and drinking coffee in glorious beautiful weather. Happiness isn’t expensive.


Skateboarding and roller skating with my 8 year old daughter. Adding a bunch of other kids, hockey sticks, RC vehicles and whatever else adds to the chaos only makes it better.


going down an alpine pass on a bicycle, being in complete control of my road bike, taking a bend perfectly while looking at the scenery by the side of my eye...


Spending time with my family. I used to enjoy programming (the alone on a greenfield project hacking kind) the most but things change as you get older.


Ecstasy. There are heights of happiness unreachable without drugs. The funny thing is, I only ever take it when I am happy, because it can‘t turn an existing frown upside down. It sucks feeling the chemical rush of it but without happiness, because your base state is bad.

The last time I took it was so long ago, I can‘t remember. I see no upcomming situation where‘d I‘d be happy enough to take it.


Playing a gig where the crowd is having a great time. Cuddling post coitus. Sitting on top of a mountain we've just climbed.


Reading. I follow many research topics and social topics. There's also lots of educational content in video format.


When I have enough mental energy, my favorite hobby is working on personal projects; mostly software but sometimes hardware. I love the process of slowly iterating and watching a project grow and improve over time. I also really enjoy reading about and testing out hardware. I find hardware to be so complex and interesting, yet also somewhat understandable when using the right abstractions in your head. These activities give me a sense of joy unlike anything else. However, when I get mentally drained, I resort to other activities.

When I need to relax, there are a few activities I really enjoy:

* Sit in nature and watch birds (yesterday two birds started making a nest in my birdhouse and I always find joy watching them)

* Hanging out with my two cats and dog; they are a great source of joy

* Learning from art. This comes in many forms, but I really like art that makes me reflect on my own life or life in general. Recently, I've been watching Studio Ghibli films and they are a great example. But I also enjoy comedy shows that simply give me a good laugh.

* Trying to create art (usually just sketching), which I don't do often, but enjoy it every time.


Completing my daily spiritual practice everyday has always been a source of happiness and bliss for me.


Do you mind sharing what practice you've been doing?


Outside of the obvious answer, for relaxation: having my (small) dogs lie in top of me and cuddle them.


Reading a book that engages a question or paradox I’ve been dwelling on for a long time.

Spending time with children.


Making/repairing something, or being fully engaged with a story (listening or reading or watching & listening, but the most engaging is when there's no screen and I can close my eyes and imagine), or the feeling of being present in a dream.


Sitting by a small campfire watching the sunset in the Rocky Mountains while sipping lemonade.

And making out.


For me it's spending time with friends. Interestingly, I'm a bit of an introvert.


consider the baseline state of the world, what pleasures are Not mindless escapism or illusion of plenty? I don't want to deceive myself that if i'd have some mundane pleasure it somehow compensates the entire weight of the world.


Spending time with my kid. Driving in the LA canyons. Those two above at the same time.


Making simple games (board or pc) for my kids and playing games with them. Knowing that your parents think of you as a good person. Being helpful to others above and beyond. Those are mine that gives me an immense sense of content.


Meandering on a motorcycle through some empty mountains. Visual context: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cbr2fw8ralG/


Having the house to myself, cracking open a beer and putting some tunes on


- MTB biking / Ultra-Endurance Road cycling - Running / Hiking in the mountains (actually climbing for the views) - Being creative (programming, sculpting, carving, painting, drawing)


Legography. Composing scenes with LEGO minifigs and photographing them


1. Watching my toddler get to enjoy new things for the first time.

2. Watching one of my older kids geek out over something that they've been waiting patiently for.

3. Being alone with my thoughts and a nice cigar.


Music, sex, drugs.

Music, hikes, painting.


Truthful conversation Snow, beach, forest Watching my kids play


Good food and anime.


Orgasm. Some drugs.


Riding a motorcycle in nature with perfect weather, new sights, and smells. Preferably while exploring a 'new to me' country.


Oh my god, yes! I miss riding one and I hope to get my permit to drive a bigger one than 125cc. Unfortunately, the weather and the insurance cost are prohibitive to do that right now in Canada. Riding one on country roads in France was the best feeling ever.


Cuddling my kids

Flying aerobatics

Skiing and rock climbing at the edge of my ability


Drinking with the boys is pretty high up there.


When a contract or peer is so surprised at how satisfied they are with my work that they feel compelled to tell me.


Kayaking on a frigid, placid, alpine lake.


I have a fine career, been married for 10 years, etc. But most of my favorite memories are sex related, so that.


You should talk with your wife about visiting a swinger's club, but only if your relationship is super solid.


When my kid says something profound.


Since noone has said it... driving!


Hunger is the best condiment.


I volunteer at a farm animal Sanctuary, and promote veganism. Best work ever.


Fixing up houses. Carpentry, drywall etc. It's immensely satisfying.


There are several. Not according to order.

1. Chopin prelude plays on a bluetooth speaker. The room is dark. My mechanical keyboard emanates light. I solve problems with code. Code that is efficient, ingenious, redable, and scalable.

2. Learning new things in general. Or when it fits already accumulated knowledge. Like a new node in an already existing tree. This is somewhat abstract, sorry.

3. Spending time with SO. Any kind of time. Even mundane tasks like grocery shopping. I love her, and everything about her!

4. Cuddling with the dog. He reciprocates with licks and funny sounds and tail-wagging. Especially if it happens in our mango grove when there is strong breeze and there is no sun.

5. Swimming alone in a pond or lake when there is strong breeze and no sun (overcast). Especially butterfly and swimming face-up with no movement at all, with my ears submerged.

6. Being surrounded by mom and dad and eating special preparation cooked by her with dad reminiscing from his childhood.

7. Sitting in dark on rooftop while there is strong breeze. And reading calm, serene books like The Little Schemer.

8. Learning new Math. Gaining new perspectives, solving new problems.

9. Reading poetry that might not be mainstream but really touches me and are literary masterpieces. Like Vaishnava Padavalis and poems by Michael MS Dutt, and Jibanananda.

10. Being with like minded friends and dipping my feet in a river stream.

11. Understanding a hard, involved topic, and then explaining it plainly to people and when they get it. Especially if there is a strong stigma around the subject/topic being hard.

12. Thinking with writing and gaining new perspectives that I would not have gained without writing. pg talks about thinking with writing often. Also, randomly gaining epiphanies while doing something else.

13. Reciting poetry, especially when somewhat drunk.

14. Climbing highs with elongated period of hard work. Especially highs that I want to climb.

15. Consuming very high quality media of any kind. Like The Wire, Don Quixote, John Coltrane's Jazz, Chopin's Nocturnes, etc.

16. Reading big fat novels that are decades old, in paperback format, idly lying in bed in natural daylight and spending 5-6 hours doing it. Especially if the weather is somewhat hot.

17. After having exercised in the day, and having done deep focused work for some hours, the sleep I go into at night.

18. When I can help people that matters and there is a minor cost to myself. Or I have to work hard to help.

19. When beautiful, mature women pay attention to me/stare at me.


music, planting, hacking electronic stuff, research on renewable energy


Drunk in osdm moshpits gets me to whole new levels of dopamine


Watching my dog thrive


Spend countless hours configuring my OS to look my way.


One of the things that I hate more than anything lol :)


Running, especially in the bush. Just me and nature.


A good day of surfing. Or sleeping with my partner


Being unemployed.


Coming home to a full mousetrap.


shallow to say, but making money


procastrinating.


Aviation


procrastinating.


Playing/singing my own music. Dream-flying with my two cats, who are no longer with me :/. Gardening. A good game of footy. Skiing like it's what I was born to do. Coding something remarkable way under schedule. Teaching my wife how to enjoy herself. GMing an amazing game session. Turning 62 this summer while camping out on my land in VT.


Boring, simple, male pleasures-

Making love and romancing a good woman.

Me and my buds drinking the good stuff and eating pizza.

Taking the kids out for ice cream

Drinking a good cappuccino with a croissant after a hard workout in the early morning

Swimming alone in the pool/ocean and just enjoying being alive

Going on a hike in the forest on magic mushrooms

Making music with my friends


Sex.




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