WHO recently released a report on obesity in europe[1]
Stressing, among other things, that obesity is a chronic disease starting very early in life, indeed even before conception, and cannot be treated as an individual failing.
They also point out that health professionals should focus not on weight loss, but on life long prevention of comorbidities. To which end various treatment options are available. Weight loss may be part of it, but as little as loosing 10-15% maybe enough towards that particular goal.
They mention some drugs that might have an impact on hunger.
Unfortunately, its a disease that is very hard to treat, and for cases of severe obesity, drastic measures like bariatric surgery may be the only option. An option well worth considering in light of the alternative if nothing else works though.
(My personal opinion is that some drastic diet intervention with focus on undoing the epigenetic damage from early life should be possible, and far preferable to the surgery option if at all effective, but the science is still being worked out on that one)
The WHO and many other doctors have decided that widespread personal failings are beyond their purview to fix, and so redefined the definition. People simply refuse to take personal responsibility, and in the face of this the doctors are trying to help. Make no mistake: this is a personal failing and a societal failing. Just because a large percentage of people choose to fail does not make it any less of a failure.
Or it could be the things in the hundreds of papers from before 2005, when normalizing obesity was not politically expedient. All you have to do is live in any east Asian society for a period of time to understand that portion control and shame are extremely effective in preventing obesity in a population.
First generation Asian immigrants to the west generally do not become obese. They retain the ideas from their home country that being fat is shameful, and they retain their conception of a correct portion size. If they start getting even 3 kilos overweight, they take steps to undo that. The west has decided portions are to be huge, and is in the process now of destroying shame. Time has shown the results.
Unfortunately, doctors cannot do anything about widespread societal shift in attitudes toward health. All they can do is recommend what is most likely to actually help. While the correct answer is "stop eating so much; gather the willpower to be mildly hungry during the day; your entire mental conception of healthy food and portions has been fucked since birth," people won't actually listen to that. Thus, modern medical advice has been forced to basically admit that no one will ever lose weight in aggregate and begin making recommendations with that in mind. That doesn't make the older mindset incorrect, though. If a doctor could mind control you into being optimally healthy, there would be a lot less focus on "it's a disease; it's stress; you can't help it so just try to manage it best you can" and a lot more "stop constantly eating so many calories".
> obesity is a chronic disease starting very early in life, indeed even before conception
I'm very curious about your thoughts on life before conception. Does the unborn infant soul inhere in the egg? And if it does, are you suggesting that some people are conceived with fat souls?
But the basics of it is that paternal health impact sperm selection, and maternal health impacts the hormonal environment shaping genetic expressions of the developing child.
I think this is correct for health concerns. I'm also motivated to enjoy nature by hiking, biking, skiing, etc, and I can't enjoy myself doing those things right now.
WHO will do everything and spread as much lies and stupid study to keep the half adult on hearth which are overweight and obese as captive costumers to bigpharma industry and industrialised food industry. So basically using them as a valid reference is stupid.
So promoting paper which relate to prenatale conditions which would leads to adult obesity is just a smoke screen to hide that the whole modern society is just a big pathology factory at mankind scale.
better make people feel they are cursed by gene than just realise that the real war on drug should be against sugar and vegetable oil than cocaine and majiuana.
The biggest cartel around are industrial food and stores where everybody shop everyday. Not talking about all the shitty food restaurant where you pay high price to destroy yourself. Most modern food are more dangerous for health than cigarettes. But still Smoke screen to keep Smart ass from silicon valley such as this website audience whe believe to be litterate enough into the blind spot of all the comorbidities of modern society. but as far as my comment hurts your feelnig keep minusing it to silent it and punish me to not be blind like you :)
signed: a carnivorous troll who lost 45kg and reversed prediabetic conditions/highblood pressure/sleeping apnea/chronic gout/oversweating by just eating meat. Not talking about my improved libido and my bigger penis (in the way i can now see my feet when i wash) And all this after 40yo. (yes im not a young idealist who believe he knows everything while most of his experience is reading ramdom stuf on internet).
well telling half truth doesnt mean you are honnest...
Some stuff are so big that ignoring them is too difficult to ignore and would question others too easely on your motive.
But Devil hides in details. Read their updated diet recommandation and understand that beside yelling with the herd about obesity epidemia, they are doing everything to promote it with their diet guidelines (based on vegan wokism).
Also it's not like nutrition heterodoxia haven't been warning since 50 years an this major health crisis. After year of promotion of modern diet from WHO and associates.
Now that you cannot go in the street without being surrounded by Obesity everywhere it's hard to play blind.
Also after 2 years of COVID, more and more peoples realised that OBESITY poses a threat by fragilizing society at global scale, as far as Obese peoples are weaker to fight against virus, and vaccines are less efficient on obese peoples. So basically they are weak and difficult to protect from common virus, especially respiratory virus.
Not forgetting about Diabetes type 2 (almost 1/3 of adult in the world has diabetic condition mostly due to overweight and obesity). Which calls about talking also on Diabete type 3 which is commonly named Alzheimer disease. Type 2 Diabetic have 6 times more chance to developp Alzheimer than non diabetic in the 10 to 20 years after start of their conditions.
So with more and more young starting to develop T2D around 20 years old, a good part of them will develop Alzheimer disease around 35-40 years old which will also have an huge societal impact.
And even before that, cognitive performance are deeply tied to calories type of sources. Alzheimer disease just being the final stage of a long degradation process over decades due to abuses of bad calories. So basically cognitive performance are degradated long time before Alzheimer occurance.
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Stressing, among other things, that obesity is a chronic disease starting very early in life, indeed even before conception, and cannot be treated as an individual failing.
They also point out that health professionals should focus not on weight loss, but on life long prevention of comorbidities. To which end various treatment options are available. Weight loss may be part of it, but as little as loosing 10-15% maybe enough towards that particular goal.
They mention some drugs that might have an impact on hunger.
Unfortunately, its a disease that is very hard to treat, and for cases of severe obesity, drastic measures like bariatric surgery may be the only option. An option well worth considering in light of the alternative if nothing else works though.
(My personal opinion is that some drastic diet intervention with focus on undoing the epigenetic damage from early life should be possible, and far preferable to the surgery option if at all effective, but the science is still being worked out on that one)
[1] https://www.euro.who.int/en/health-topics/noncommunicable-di...