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> You have a photo of your child in the bathtub and the police smash down your door.

Reminder: Europe is not US.

Nobody can smash your door here without proper authorization from a court.

And even then, they would knock.




But the OP's sentiment still stands. Repetitional damage, stress, potential job loss, etc. just because you wanted to take a picture of your daughter or son in the bathtub playing with a rubber duck to send to your grandparents.

I mean my parents still have those pictures in photo albums and they have been shown multiple times to family friends or relatives - nobody has obvs objected - but there is nobody from a 3rd party with 0 context watching over their heads deciding if this is child porn or not. (Plus I think I look adorable with my duck shampoo and recently found it in the basement when doing cleanup <3). And I very much like those pictures as they are interesting moments of my life that I don't have memories of but are ME.

But to extend this - maybe my neighbours think that is super wrong, maybe my employer. In it's current form the regulation allows for a lot of private data spillage to other ppl.

Even if it's just - yes wrong flag by the alog -> someone gets to see me or my children naked - wtf I'd argue that's abuse.


> But the OP's sentiment still stands. Repetitional damage, stress, potential job loss

This has never happened though!

Can you point me to a case in EU where a parent took a photo of their children and got in trouble?

So it's kinda like saying: but OP is right, we should all live underground, because aliens could fire lasers on us!


> Can you point me to a case ... took

I think the idea is that of the risk posed by automation within inadequate workflows.

Which, incidentally, is a case-relevant reality in areas you yourself mentioned. And similarly, following there have been case-relevant realities of «repetitional damage, stress, potential job loss» - in other areas that still have caused troubles to citizens after inadequate workflows, and sometimes even owing to imperfect automation.


> Nobody can smash your door here without proper authorization from a court.

This is an urban legend. My country Germany often prides itself to have protections here but that is a lie. In reality courts are overwhelmed so they basically sign any request the executive brings in. We had that for a twitter comment that hit the news a few month ago, but we also have that for people buying flowerpots online because they were suspected to grow weed. No joke. Surveillance is again very strong here.

It is true though that they mostly knock at least or they wait until you are not at home. But the barriers are very low for a supposedly enlightened society. And recourse against illegal searches are very limited as well and some end with quite some property damage.

Some geniuses thought it would be a prudent idea to evaluate the performance of police by the cases they close. So they really have to search for crime in any niche. State incompetence of the highest level in the highest positions and people have very little protection against that and if at some point there isn't enough crime...

The tend not to even say sorry if their search was wrong. Neither the executive nor any other government entity. The police is the least guilty although the system relies that they only request reasonable searches.


> Surveillance is again very strong here.

Now imagine elsewhere.

Anyway: this has nothing to do with what I wrote, which is not an urban legend at all!

Doors have rarely (never AFAIK in my country) been smashed by the police, not even in those cases where there were actual terrorists inside the building.

Because our police forces are not trained to be war soldiers and are not armed to the teeth.


> elsewhere

Have you noticed the tendency scattered around the world to freeze citizens' financial assets before trials?




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