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I don’t speak hebrew but someone online said that this is an unnecessarily literal translation of "double colon" and it’s not what most developers would call it. Take that with a grain of salt though.



The history of that entire fiasco is quite comprehensivly summarized at https://phil.tech/2013/wtf-is-t-paamayim-nekudotayim/ .


What a childish rant that blog post is though...


That was a nice history lesson actually. I remember being confused at the error message, looking it up, being confused at the explanation... because I hadn't learned static calls yet. I may not have even understood classes at that point, but that was way back in the day.

If PHP support has to handle the same stupid question about the meaning of a very unnecessary term that's confusing people and causing more support requests than anything else... then it made sense to change it.

I'm glad I read the blog post; it clears up a LOT of thoughts I had about the error... calling it childish seems off. Maybe you had a dog in the fight at some point?


> Maybe you had a dog in the fight at some point?

No! But read the part where Rasmus Lerdorf "beams into" the conversation and his opinion is dismissed with "let's take a vote".

I mean, if you wanted a language that wasn't intentionally designed by Rasmus Lerdorf, you kinda picked the wrong one. This is what I was referring to.


Seems plausible since afaik the other constants were in English, so this seems to be a developer's joke.


It was a joke, a troll really, that just gave PHP haters something else to deride the language with to people who don't know it that well.


If you look it up, this token can have two names. It is indeed a double colon :)


Oooh now I wonder if it literally means "dual intestine".


Nope, it's literally "twice colon" where colon is specifically the punctuation mark. פעמים נקודותיים


Ahh dreams dashed.


I thought we were talking about colons?


Dashed? Em-dashed? Hyphenated? Or just subtracted?


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