Hey, can you please rein back this sort of post on HN? I totally get, and appreciate, your passion (and deep knowledge) of programming language spaces–I've observed it for years and have learned quite a bit from your posts. But it's really important to restrain the passion from crossing into destructive places like this. Otherwise we just end up with angry flamewars where no one is learning anything from anybody. The whole idea on HN is to try to avoid those end-states and stay in more interesting places.
I am not going to convince anyone, I am not a missionary doing conversions, specially from a group that workships statements like,
"The key point here is that our programmers are Googlers, they're not researchers. They're typically fairly young, fresh out of school. Probably learned Java, maybe learned C or C++, probably learned Python. They're not capable of understanding a brilliant language. But we want to be able to use them to build good software. And so the language we give them needs to be easy for them to understand and easy to adopt."
You're definitely not going to convince anyone if the only thing you can inject into a discussion is contempt. The "Smug Lisp Weenies" tried that course; we're not all using Lisp. In fact: their heyday was the great flourishing of the least-Lisp-like languages.
