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"...In September 1942, during the Battle of Stalingrad, Russian Sergeant Yakov Pavlov and his platoon seized a four-story apartment building—later dubbed “Pavlov’s House”—overlooking a large square. The building had long lines of sight from three sides. Pavlov’s men place barbed wire and antipersonnel and antitank mines around the building, smashed and cut holes in walls to create interior walkways, and placed machine-gun firing points in the building’s corners. They would move to the cellar as indirect fire struck the top of the building or to higher floors when German Panzers approached so they could fire antitank rifles down onto the tanks’ vulnerable, thin roofs. Pavlov and his men held the building for fifty-eight days against numerous mechanized and combined arms attacks, causing an unknown number of German vehicle and soldier kills in the process..."



Wouldn't they just target the building with a cruise middle these days?


Those cost a million dollars a piece.

Russians have serious logistical problems now. There are Twitter videos of some of their tank crews stuck on Ukrainian roads without fuel and being taunted and asked if they want for a ride back to Russia by Ukrainian passers by.

https://twitter.com/RihoTerras/status/1497537193346220038


These cost a million dollars a piece to Americans. I'm not sure how much Russia pays for each Caliber cruise missile, but the (short-range ballistic rather than cruise) Tochka-U is somewhere around $150k.

Also, for what it's worth, Russia used 26 Caliber missiles on a single day in Syria back in 2015.


Russia doesn’t have the same stockpiles of Precision Guided Munitions, they don’t have the same infantry level access to NVGs, they have some high speed high tech gear, but limited amounts compared to Americans.


Compared to Americans, sure.

But they're fighting Ukrainians, not Americans.


Stockpiles of munitions are vital, you can’t simply expend infinite numbers, they take time to resupply. At times even American troops were supply constrained on certain missiles.

The point is, Russia has to be selective, especially since Ukrainian AD is still active.


Absolutely. But then again, how many Pavlov's houses do you get during a war? It's known by name precisely because it was such an extreme case.


That tweet has been shared a lot but is there any indication that any of it is true?

And even if it is, doesn’t that just mean Russia will move from the quick strike strategy to a more bloody, full assault?


They are having to supply fuel, food and ammunition to 200,000 men over a 500 Km distance in hostile territory. You would need a fantastic logistical operation to be able to support that even in your own country.

"Ukrainian citizen confronts Russian soldiers after tank runs out of fuel"

https://youtu.be/14gVDF2b1vA


This is incredibly baffling. How can a tank "get lost and run out of fuel"? The tanks don't have GPS or even a map? They don't have radio connection to some kind of command that know where its tanks are? Like ... how?

I don't even know. This seems like a plausible deniability for desertion or something. "We ran out of fuel, oh well, nothing we can do." Not that I'm complaining, I'd rather get lost and captured than fight for Putin either.


This is why I am confused. It just seems so absurdly incompetent that I can’t quite believe it is all true.

I realise that stupid things happen during war, but it’s only a few days in and surely this is the kind of thing they train and plan for.


This is now impossible with modern weaponry. Sure, it is still a valid tactic for short term, but 5 days would be hard let alone 58 days.




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