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You either believe in free speech or you dont. It shouldn't matter who is infringing on it


The third way is believing there is practical value to restricting governments from disallowing their citizens to speak freely because a people who cannot speak freely tends to become revolutionary over time as their true desires grow divorced from the government's understanding of them.

That's miles away from thinking paying people to proliferate lies about how vaccines work is cool.


If you have a blog, can you give me login details to publish whatever I like on there?


Spotify uses Cloudflare, right? I think Cloudflare should just block the pages.

Or maybe we petition those hosting Spotify servers & ISPs to ban the pages.

Actually, should spotify be resolvable by any DNS server hosted by a company?

Huh, or maybe there is a line to draw in the sand that isn't so strict? Nah /s


This argument hinges on whether one believes internet access is a right, and if it is, what form that right takes.

Neither is a settled question, though the world community tends to be leaning towards "yes" as the answer to the first and is busying itself with the mucky process of answering the second.



handeave-handwave That document is a good start, but it mostly says human rights that are violated are still violated if they are violated with the Internet. There are a lot of subtle questions of rights collision it doesn't address, to which I was referring (including how freedom of speech and freedom of press interact when the speech is through someone else's service).

... And that's considering only the UN member nations. 70+ nations are not UN members and a statement like this has no bearing on them.


Yes of course because I believe in free speech and any form of access control on broadcasting means is CENSORSHIP like in the PRC. /s


This is a straw man. Something closer would be. You have a blog. You like the content I create. So you form a contract with me to development content and put it on your blog. Part of the contract is that you are the exclusive distributor of my content. You then decide you don’t like the content I’m putting out and cease to distribute my content.


In that scenario, the content creator’s free speech hasn’t been affected. They can publish their content on their own blog or anywhere else still.


Spotify directly says that they are not a publisher. Platforms that mute certain voices are censors


Do you believe in the right to yell "fire!" in a crowded theater when there isn't one?




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