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And you're under the impression that a private business exercising their right to delete podcast episodes on their platform is the first step to what? Progroms against the weed smoking quack demographic? If this is what listening to Joe Rogan does to a brain they better throw the entire catalog away


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Free speech has never guaranteed a platform. Free speech has never mean you can say whatever you want without consequence. Free speech has never meant that people have to hear what you want to say.

These days it's easier than ever to get a platform. Speech has never been more accessible or more publishable. We are so far from "the death of free speech".


You say that from Taiwan where defamation is a crime, and people who speak in support of China can be charged under the foreign agents act. I don't think you know what free speech means. Which makes sense as Taiwan seems concerned about trying to control narratives.

About platforms you misunderstand. It's the platforms that have the power: to enable, that's also the power to control.

So we can be both in the situation where we are so close to universal free speech, and yet so close to the death of it too. I'm sure the Jews didn't believe they were going to be wiped out either.


> I'm sure the Jews didn't believe they were going to be wiped out either.

Nope. you've lost any credibility with that argument.


I don't understand what you mean by that. I guess you just need to believe I've lost credibility because you don't know what to say because you don't know how to think about things.

You're not equipped to deal with discussions on the internet these days, like so many others, because nobody actually knows how to think about something that challenges their programming: the messaging they've uncritically absorbed.

Many people deal with the culture in a "consumerist" way. They consume little sound-bites, which are really talking points. Without thinking. And so of course they cannot deal with anything outside that, and they just want to "silence" it. Because they don't know how to critically think.


Sorry mate, if the first thing you go to is the holocaust and comparing it to something that isn't about the deaths of 6 million+ people, you're not equipped for civilized discussions full stop. Thanks


No.

I think you're just scared of people being heard, when they say things you disagree with, but then to abuse the sacred protection afforded by a defense of the victims of Nazis, as cover for your own desire to silence people? Wrong and awful.

So silencing people who expose the same speech control, silencing and censorship tactics of the Holocaust, in the name of "protecting" the victims of the Holocaust? It’s an amoral abomination. You're undermining the thing you're pretending to protect. And comparing based on death counts? Obscene! So cannot compare with the Japanese war crimes, Carcassian genocide, Taiwan White Terror, because less deaths? But then you can compare in reverse? Illogical.

So… "Sorry mate"? You should be apologizing to yourself, not to me, for that kind of talk. And "thanks"? Why thank me? Because you think me having different ideas to yours is a fake pretext for you to try to silence me?

So, oh, I’m “unequipped for civilized discussions”? No, it’s only you unequipped for civilized discussions: because of this amoral stuff, not civilized at all. And unequipped for online discussions because you’re not thinking, as I said. If you update those perspectives tho, and start really thinking about what you say and the consequences, I think you’ll be equipped. So no stress. Thank you!

Or to put it like you said it:

I'm sorry but if you think that silencing people who expose the same tactics used in the Holocaust, is the right theme to do to "protect" those Holocaust victims, then you're the only one unequipped for civilized discussions full stop forever. Thank you!

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Also to the commenter above.. What's wrong with Gwyneth Paltrow? She's good. And are you 'under the impression' ("in your words") that it's a bad thing if a "non zero" amount of people think differently to you? And that censoring those different to you is a good thing? That's just fucking crazy. Hahaha :p;) xx ;p !!!


"no u" k


Heh, yeah basically. You get it. But see the above comment for details. If you're unhappy with that, then don't be the one who next time leads with insults: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30226657




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