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My success with outsourcing some work to Latin America has been much, much, much more successful than outsourcing to India and other places in Asia for the following reasons:

1. As the article points out, being in the same/similar timezones is huge. With so many folks working remotely anyway, it's much easier to integrate these developers as part of the team. They join standups, we can have easy back-and-forths in Slack, etc. The timezone difference to India makes this virtually impossible, so that if you ARE outsourcing to India the model is totally different and you have to outsource a very different type of work. Plus, since the time zones are so off, the situation sucks for everyone - someone is either staying up very late or getting up very early. These days I refuse jobs where coordination with India is required, because it's just not worth sacrificing other parts of my life for it, especially when it's easy to get a job where this is not necessary.

2. In general, I have found there to be less of a cultural issue of Latin American developers proactively speaking up and letting us know concerns/potential issues than their Indian counterparts. One of the biggest issues we had many years ago is that, while we hired developers in India that were fantastic technically, they were loath to inform us of problems or schedule slip until it was too late; in general, there was a culture of "over-deference" which proved to be extremely detrimental. If anyone has read Malcolm Gladwell's book Outliers, it was very similar to what he discusses about Korean Airlines' cockpit culture.



I tend to agree with you having worked with IBM's global consulting services and their workforce in both India and Brazil many moons ago.

While in theory, it may sound like you could have around the clock hands-on-keyboard time by having folks in India, it's more advantageous to have people work in similar time zone if it is joint development work.

I do have to say, when there are important soccer matches though, developers in Brail were... a bit harder to reach. no joke. lol.


I went to Brazil with some friends for the World Cup in 2014. For the bigger, more important matches the entire country left work early and everything (except for bars, etc.) closed down for the day. Quite literally.


Absolutely. World cup matches might as well be impromptu national holidays at this point. Carnaval also has huge impact on productivity.


Sounds like Italy.


> I do have to say, when there are important soccer matches though, developers in Brail were... a bit harder to reach. no joke. lol.

This is absolutely true during a World Cup


The difference between IST and any US hours is my current pain. I have to get up at 5am (and sometimes even 4am) for a meeting that still requires the developers in India to stay late. I get maybe 2 hours of overlap, and everything else has to happen via async email.

In the past, we worked with HP's consulting arm, and they moved us to their Costa Rica workforce because time zones matched up better. I think both sides were happier on that.


Having to support every timezone is my biggest pain. Occasionally Europe, occasionally India, occasionally china, occasionally eastern US.

Multiple meetings with random times between 0Z and 24Z in the same day makes it hard to plan on when to sleep.


while I agree with what you are saying, Gladwell's example may not be very good http://askakorean.blogspot.com/2013/07/culturalism-gladwell-...


That article... doesn't seem very compelling? It seems like a bit part of the thesis is KAL's planes getting shot down by Soviets doesn't reflect badly on the pilots. I personally see "flying into terrain" and "flying into a war zone" as fairly interchangeable concepts, just with different survival probabilities.


Time zones don't matter as much s youd think. Most of my oversees vendors are working the equivalent of 2nd and 3rd shifts and prefer not to have earlier meetings as they aren't working yet. It surprised me too.


My own experiences are identical to yours. Not 90%, not 99%, 100% identical.




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