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> We can moralize 2nd but fundament is always numbers.

So you think it is moralizing to take people and fairness as the fundament? I certainly prefer that over numbers, if that makes me moralizing then so be it.

What you are implying is that you think the janitor (not an employee of course) of that hightech company who can't afford insurance does not deserve treatment when she gets hit by cancer. Paying for that would be too disincentivizing for the employees and shareholders, and the company should consider moving to another place that is more considerate of its needs.

I think the whole idea of poor people getting the same healthcare as rich people is really what is putting off many people in the US. Even if it would be better for everyone and have no downsides at all, it would still face opposition.




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