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> Also also, I hope other popular cryptoprocessors aren't so vulnerable?

You might be surprised, but also this chip wasn't intended to be used to secure a chain of trust but had to be press ganged into service after being let down by the main bootrom, which was done by a team at NVidia without much experience of doing these things and made a lot of elementary errors. And being used for a games console is painting a big target on your back.

But ultimately a lot of secure chipset areas have been subject to a lot of... learning on the job shall we say. Things are much better than they used to be, but you don't have to go back many years before things get very hairy. People constantly say they want more OS version support for Android, but I would not want to use a five year old processor from Samsung or Qualcomm if I cared about the hardware backed security on my phone.



> but you don't have to go back many years before things get very hairy

For the NV TSEC-equivalent Falcon successor on Ampere, it’s indeed not vulnerable to this attack because that security subsystem was made much more secure.

But that’s an arch released in… 2020.


> People constantly say they want more OS version support for Android, but I would not want to use a five year old processor from Samsung or Qualcomm if I cared about the hardware backed security on my phone.

What I would really like is a modern Android that doesn't brick half the security features by e-fuse when I root it and many apps refuse to run properly afterwards - why the fuck, for example, does the PayPal app refuse fingerprint unlocking after rooting but other apps don't?! All this incentivizes me as the user is to choose an insecure password that I can actually remember.


Its a small miracle paypal doesnt flat out prevent you from running the app when rooted.


I'm fairly certain you're not eFused out, but you would have to give up your root and let your phone powerwash itself if you wanted things to go back to normal.


Samsung Knox fires an e-fuse the moment you flash an alternative boot image.


That's gross, sorry to hear that.

OnePlus does not do this.




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