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I realise the moment has passed but structurally integrated batteries aside, this was a huge misconception of the likely reality of battery swap at scale. Starting gate, sure you get lemon packs. It's not like gasoline isn't plagued by low grade fuels and water contamination (it shuts down airports) -but then you get regulatory standards and people normalise to acceptably efficient removal of bad battery packs from the swap scheme. And since you don't own the pack, the problem amortises over the rental costs.

People broke the model with what-if games. It never got to critical mass. So it's basically VHS vs beta, for swappable vs integrated and swappable lost, on pretty specious grounds.

Integrated is good because strength and weight. Swappable was good on speed. Swappable is alive and well in e-scooters and probably works for trucks.

Battery swap did not advantage Tesla in the marketplace and possibly disadvantaged Tesla which had 2x range for most competitors. A viable battery swap economy ends range anxiety, at the density of swap shops. Tesla wouldn't have had a compelling story in swap.



and probably works for trucks.

Maybe for freight trains too, since you can build the battery into a battery tender carriage, and railways have 150+ years experience at swapping carriages on and off trains.


But electrifying the line is overall a superior solution. Battery powered trains are only feasable in niche situations where either:

- the usage pattern does not justify the investment of electrification

- the company owning the trains is not in control of the railway and does not have any leverage over the railway owner.

- for some edge technical reason the line can not be electrified.


Shunting and industrial loco in complex factory sites.

Forklifts, and possibly rubbish trucks which do frequent depot trips anyway as a function of their job


Great points. Those totally might be niches for batteries.



Swapping in a multi-vendor world also implies standardization. It’s too early in this technology to standardize - that would stifle progress.

Swap stations would also be far more expensive to build and manage inventory for, and would carry higher liability for whatever automated mechanism moved the thousand pound pack packs around when it e.g. went out of alignment and crushed somebody’s car frame.


Yea, totally - I found this to be a lesser problem in cases like Tesla, where it's all proprietary anyway. You're correct that in a world of many standards, it becomes an issue


From memory the battery pack in a Tesla weighs on the order of 300kg. It's quite a heavy thing to change even if the structural and battery conditions went away.


You're off by a factor of almost two. An 85KWh Tesla pack weighs in at 550 Kg. It's more than 7000 cells, so that's 350 Kg for the cells alone and then you still need to add all of the structure, interconnects, electronics and cooling.


Tesla has offered this in the past:

https://www.tesla.com/videos/battery-swap-event

No idea though how they thought they’d handle battery degradation.




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