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The US was not run out of Iraq by Iran, not was it run out of Syria by Russia. That's a total misrepresentation of the situation.

The US lost the political will to stay in Afghanistan. It wasn't actually that difficult or costly, just not worth it.

There was no appetite for war after Vietnam, and yet Iraq 1, Iraq 2 and Afghanistan all happened.

If China invaded Taiwan, then the 'appetite for war would change' and if a couple of American ships were sunk, then the 'appetite for war' would be at 100%.

Sometimes I think I'm debating young people with no living memory of how these things change over time and how Americans absolutely do not tolerate direct attacks.

Pearl Harbour, 9/11, both had devastating consequences.




I'm 46.

America was run out off Syria by Russia. There was lots of other things going on too, but Russia got a deep water port in the Mediterranean - something that both the British and American empires tried to stop for hundreds of years - before the Crimean war.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/10/08/after-five-years-of-fig...

https://www.news18.com/news/opinion/after-10-years-of-syrian...

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/trump-applauds-russia-vic...

I mean Turkish forces shelled a US post in Syria at one point and laughed about it. That's how worried the rest of the world is about US appetite for war.

https://www.militarytimes.com/2019/10/13/us-troops-believe-t...

Iran has run America out of Iraq.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/18/leaked-cables-...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/18/leaked-cables-...

Where was any appetite to do anything about China's actions in HK?




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