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A huge chunk of the planet is forced into jobs they don't like to provide for themselves and their families. What's so "dignifying" about a job getting humiliated by entitled customers in retail or waitressing for minimum wage or breaking your body doing hard manual labor? Religious morality is the only reason a much more safe, comfortable and lucrative option like OnlyFans is banned.



Exactly. People talk as if these girls are oblivious to the fact that they can work some shitty minimum wage jobs.

I totally get their mindset. If it wasn’t for my own residual sexual conservatism, I’d much rather be an OnlyFans sex worker than some underpaid wage slave.


I think you should accept some people think of it differently.

And let's be frank here. OF is probably a viable financial opportunity - on average - for a small number of more attractive that normal people, and it's probably weighted towards younger women. I'd love to have hard data to present to you, but I can't find it.

I have literally zero problem with people who want to use OF to support themselves. However, let's agree 1) that some people for whom it would be a viable financial option find it objectionable and 2) it's a less viable financial option for some, even if they don't find it objectionable.

I think that groups 1 & 2 in there should still be able to work a 40 hour job and pay for food and rent, and still be able to save something to retire if they want to. And they probably should fear starving or dying of exposure even if they don't have a job.

Call it unrealistic, but I prefer to fix that problem, too.


I am completely fine with people having their own views on this issue and not participating in it if they don't like it, blocking it on their computers or whatever else. The problem is these views being imposed upon the greater population for no reason.


The point is, why would you specifically single out sex work? Why should the people "still be able to work a 40 hour job and pay for food and rent" without getting involved in sex work in particular? I.e. jobs with far less dignity, or far more danger (e.g. logging), less comfort, etc., are ok in that broad "work a 40 hour job" category, but sex work is not ok? You could as well say "some people find retail jobs degrading/exhausting/unfulfilling [many if not most retail workers do, I suspect], so they should still be able to work a 40 hour [non-retail] job and pay for food and rent".

The only real reason to single out OF (an objectively superior option to a median job, if you can get it) is precisely the puritanical morality.


> I think you should accept some people think of it differently

But why? Because their parents told them so?

Is there some fundamental reason to see this differently? Some cultures accept murder too, should we accept that some people think of it differently? I say fuck those people.


All cultures accept murder. The ones that didn't were killed by the ones that did.


How so? Murder seems to be very looked down upon in most cultures and is not generally accepted. There are nations that wage war, yes, but this is not generally accepted as good. And in daily life, murder has been basically banished completely (compared to, for example, 200 years ago, where murders for honor or duels were more socially acceptable).


> Murder seems to be very looked down upon in most cultures and is not generally accepted.

Mostly for people’s in-groups. The care goes down as in-group association goes down.

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America, Europe/NATO, and other allied countries have unnecessary “wars” and conflicts and use things like drones to murder people. Drones killing people randomly isn’t war a lot of the time.

Murder definition is silly. Says “unlawful” killing of someone. Who determines what’s lawful when the countries included at the beginning do stuff overseas? Obviously some will consider all the killing done as murder.

It’s not hard to say we (as in the west) murdered Yemenese, Afghans/Pakistanis (the drones attacking people), Palestinians, and more in recent years. Then we have the big name ones like murdering the Iranian general a year ago.

via equity, alliance, and diplomatic and financial support. Not directly, but murder charges in most countries can be charged to people who aren’t directly doing the killing too


American culture did not think killing Osama Bin Laden was objectionable.


Are you saying that working retail or construction is about the same as doing porn in terms of how society treats you? That does not match my experience by a long shot. They are qualitatively different.

> Religious morality is the only reason a much more safe, comfortable and lucrative option like OnlyFans is banned.

I do not think this is right either. Take away all the religious baggage and still parents will try to keep their daughters from doing porn. Change our neurobiology so we don't act that way and, well you have a different species.


I believe they're saying working retail or construction is about the same as doing porn in regards to how some people have to work jobs that break them down (emotionally, physically or socially) for money.


> I believe they're saying working retail or construction is about the same as doing porn in regards to how some people have to work jobs that break them down (emotionally, physically or socially) for money.

You believe the long lasting consequences of doing porn and being a waitress are exactly the same? You've never been involved or talked to a porn performer. Suicide rates for the latter don't lie.


No, I believe the original commenter believes that. I never said it was my personal belief.

That said suicide rates at my engineering school were high enough that the administration had to close roof accesses :)


>What's so "dignifying" about a job getting humiliated by entitled customers in retail or waitressing for minimum wage or breaking your body doing hard manual labor?

The fact that you can (at least in theory) quit, recover and find a better job, or get promoted. Unlike humiliating videos of yourself being on the internet forever.




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