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I haven't been bought or duped, but I'm capable of reading crime stats and gun sale stats and drawing conclusions from the actual raw data I read.

Gun homicides have declined rapidly over the last 30 years. In the same timeframe, gun sales have rapidly increased (along with ammunition, accessories, etc).

If there's no link between gun sales and gun homicides, but in fact an inverse link, then your argument is on extremely shaky ground.



Have you read any other countries gun crime stats?

Last time a school kid showed up at school armed and killed a bunch of classmates here was, ummm, never? I’m pretty sure?

From outside, it seems like that’s a thing that happens every few weeks there.

Kids in Australia do not do “active shooter drills” in school. My sister was horrified when my nieces came home from school in SF and told her about those.


What does another countries gun crime stats have to do with America? Further, how does that invalidate the hard facts?

Gun homicides are rapidly declining on a per capita and absolute basis, over the period of decades.


You have no idea. Influence is subtle, indirect and multifaceted.

If you were born in any other country you'd have exceptionally low probability of holding views on gun control you hold. And even if somehow you managed to acquire those views and hold it it would be almost surely due to USA exporting its culture en masse along with all the dumb parts.


I wasn't born in the US. I am however capable of reading official statistics.

I'm more prone to trusting statistics information than the information of say, politically biased campaigns.

What does the data say? Gun homicides are declining. Rapidly. What else matters to you?


Suicides, accidents, necessity for the police to carry guns everywhere and use them liberally, mass shootings and their cultural impact. 'Everything goes' approach to policing because 'they risk they lives everyday'.

There's a lot of factors to consider to evaluate how dumb idea it is exactly. And what you get in exchange for all that additional risk and harm is just extension of childish or at the latest teenage power fantasy way into the adulthood where it does not belong.

You shouldn't trust cherry-picked statistics no more than you trust politicians you don't agree with.

You should just look at what the civilized world outside of USA is doing and with what results.


You acknowledged the statistic is a correlation earlier. There are also many other correlations with lower gun homicides in the US. The causation is the interesting fact, and harder to determine. The argument that increasing gun sales causes lower gun homicides fails some logic and common sense tests, and would need evidence before anyone takes it seriously. Until then, it is seems more likely that other factors that we do have evidence for (eg. lower lead exposure leading to a drop in violent crime across the board) is causing the lowering of gun homicide in the US, despite the fact that gun sales are increasing.




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