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Deflation means I can buy more stuff for less money. This allows me to work less and have more leisure time. Therefore, deflation is desirable.


Yes, it allows you to buy more for the same amount of money, increasingly as time goes on. This is why it results in economic slowdowns, because people are more hesitant to spend money when it may be worth more later.

In fact we see this in a small scale in the tech sector all the time: products get more powerful or cheaper or both, meaning people who might want to upgrade often agonize over waiting to spend their money to a point where it will obtain more per unit of value.

Or with Crypto, consider the HODL mentality. BTC would have made a lot more progress towards use as a medium of exchange if an enormous number of people weren't simply buying it on the hope of future value, or speculate by continuously selling the peak and buying the dip. There's even the cautionary tales in the crypto community against actually using any if it to cash out for purchases, such as the person who paid for a Pizza with enough bitcoin to be worth over $100,000,000 today. The message is "Never use it, always HODL" Of course there's always the anecdotal person here an HN who will chime in with, That's not true, I just bought X with it!". Which is fine, but an extreme outlier.

It will never deliver on it's goals when that, and investment speculation, are the two dominant use cases. Bitcoin is trapped in a cul-de-sac right now, and absent some unexpected event, mainstream everyday use of crypto by average people-- if that comes to pass-- will bypass BTC by as it circles around that cul-de-sac.


Okay, try how it’d actually work:

… then your boss says sales are down and your salary is being cut. “Don’t worry, your purchasing power hasn’t changed!”

… then you need to go to each creditor and try to renegotiate your balance so you’re not overpaying at the current value rather than what it was when you bought your house or car.

… meanwhile the economy slowly grinds to a halt as people and businesses hesitate to get loans for the same reason. That’s when the layoffs start ramping up, which does not improve the state of the economy.

This used to happen periodically and it was ruinous — it’s why systems like the Federal Reserve were created and almost all serious economists target consistent low inflation levels since that has the opposite effect of incentivizing economic activity.


You didnt mention the role of capital, which is stored savings. Dig in to the role and benefits of stored monetary reserves, how bitcoin does this and cant be inflated, and you might get pissed off when you realize savers have a great escape mechanism from the huge government bailouts of failing industries (airlines, cruise ship lines).

If you can get out of debt, you may see the benefit of bitcoin as a store of value. If you are in debt slavery, you of course want easy money to make your debts easier to pay.


Bitcoin may ultimately become a store of value, but highly volatile asset classes are not what people look for in that.


So everybody stops working after saving a few years. And then who produces the food?


Do you want everyone to go back to the farms as laborers? Our food abundance is produced mechanically. Automation and technology brings deflation, which allows me and my children to not toil in the fields.

It appears some here believe in the labor theory of value. For me, if I cant do better than the machine, then I am not adding value and need to do something else.


Automation doest not bring deflation. It brings a higher standard of living where people have more money so they can buy more things. Prices still increase though-- inflation. The key is to have wage increases, and therefore quality of life, increase at a rate that at least slightly exceeds inflation so that people continuously have increasing amounts of money to improve quality of life.

This is why wage stagnation or when wages do not keep pace with inflation it's bad.


Apparently you don't understand deflation? Deflation means the price level falls over time, including salaries.




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