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The CIA has a budget for lying and cheating that is an order of magnitude larger than anything else other countries have. I always assume that they are doing more damage than what we know about.


I highly doubt if they have an order of magnitude more than China "budget" for CIA type activities. Probably more but not 10X, maybe 2X


you can use military spending as a proxy.


I don't think you can, I expect different countries to have a wide variety of intelligence budgets as a percentage of military. But, if you did this anyway for the US and China, you would get 3.1x, closer to 2x than 10x.


Also difficult to know if the CIA gets as much spying done per dollar spent.


You could use investment in companies that the CCP has investment in (and generating revenue for them; which also acts as taking revenue/fuel away from competing government types/ecosystems) as a proxy as well.


How do you get to those numbers exactly? You really think Russia and China are choir boys?




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