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Timing, IIRC. Lotus was late to Windows, opening the door for Excel.



Yeah it seems to be 1989 v 1991 based on the wiki but it also sounds like there might be some version differences. 2 years was a long time back then.


It's still a long time! You try being two years later to a major market than Microsoft and still beating them. How often has that happened?


Windows Mobile - iPhone Tablet PC - iPad Internet Explorer - Google Chrome MSN Messenger - Facebook Messenger, iMessage, etc Microsoft Band - Apple Watch Zune Pass (2006) - Spotify (2009, 2011), Apple Music, etc Skype - Zoom Hotmail - Gmail


Windows Mobile may have been there before iOS but it came after Blackberry and palm. iOS and iPhone was also revolutionary. Smartphones changed substantially from that.

Internet Explorer wasn't the first browser on the market but by the time Chrome had come around Microsoft had let it languish and it became pretty awful. For a long time Microsoft had convincingly won the browser war.

Same with MSN messenger, it didn't keep up. And nobody has ever decisively won that chat app war anyways .

Smartwatches have been around for a very very long time. What Apple did was get smartphone integration right.

Zune Pass isn't a streaming service, its a DRM laden online music store. So more akin to iTunes than Spotify or Apple Music. And it was very late to the game.


Skype -> Whatsapp, Zoom


Windows Mobile/iOS? Arguably Office and Google Docs.


Google Docs was released 20 years after Office, after Office had already killed all the rest of its competition in the early 90s.

iOS is a good example though. Windows Mobile had not yet come to dominate the market.




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