> Hell, the U.S. has administered almost more doses than Russia, India, and China combined but those are the countries that will save the world? C'mon.
Yes. The US administered those vaccines to people in the US, so it does not save the world. On the other hand, India, one of the countries you ridicule, exported 58 million vaccines, almost twice as many as what they administered locally.[1] The EU has exported 34 million.[2] In comparison, the US is exporting 4 million.[3]
> Once the U.S. is fully vaccinated, tens of millions of doses will flow to the rest of the world on behalf of the U.S.
If we're talking future flows, Indonesia alone is set to receive 140 million doses from China.[4] India is ramping up production from 60-70 million monthly doses to 100 million monthly doses from April.[5] "Tens of millions" of doses from the US is a drop in the ocean compared to that.
Let's be clear here - I haven't ridiculed any country. I'm defending the actions of the U.S. and U.K.
> "Tens of millions" of doses from the US is a drop in the ocean compared to that.
> so it does not save the world
Ok fine. We can let India and China save the world. I don't really care anymore. We'll keep all of our doses since it's just a drop in the ocean and doesn't matter. No wonder so many in America are becoming isolationist and protectionist. I'm so over all day every day just hearing about how awful America is.
"America sucks it can't vaccinate its own people!"
"America sucks it's not donating vaccines to other people in the world!"
Anyway - why exactly was there ever this big competition to see who could export the most doses?
> "Many Indians, however, now want the government to make vaccines available to more of its own people instead of only the elderly and those above 45 suffering from health conditions.
> “The priority of the Modi government is not the state but foreign nations,” Congress said on Twitter, using the tag #IndiaNeedsMoreVaccines and accusing the premier of focusing on “PR over people”." [1]
> India, the world's biggest vaccine maker, has gifted or sold here 59 million locally produced doses compared with 33 million doses given to its own people since its inoculation campaign began in mid-January.
Hmm. I wonder how much those definitely not corrupt Pharma companies made by selling vaccines to other countries instead of giving them to equally at-risk Indians?
Why do people always try and make these situations so black and white?
> The US administered those vaccines to people in the US, so it does not save the world.
The US is part of the world, and vaccinating an American does as much to save the world as vaccinating a non-American. For a country that isn't yet fully vaccinated and isn't vaccinating at the limit of its own logistical capability, the most effective contribution it can make to saving the world is to ramp up internal vaccinations.
> "Tens of millions" of vaccines is a drop in the ocean compared to that.
The US has contracted for production of nearly vaccines for about 200 million more people than there are people in the US, all but 100 million of which are due by July 31.
I don't understand the negative reaction here. A human is a human. The US is still contributing to global vaccinations count heavily and once majority of Americans are inoculated, the world will soon be flush with those doses too. Then there's the fact that Moderna, Pfizer, and J&J were all involved in making them in the first place...
I think the negative reaction comes from thinking that, vaccinating an 80 year old Indonesian is the same as vaccinating a 22 year old American. One has a much higher chance of having a severe, deadly, case COVID than the other.
Yes. The US administered those vaccines to people in the US, so it does not save the world. On the other hand, India, one of the countries you ridicule, exported 58 million vaccines, almost twice as many as what they administered locally.[1] The EU has exported 34 million.[2] In comparison, the US is exporting 4 million.[3]
> Once the U.S. is fully vaccinated, tens of millions of doses will flow to the rest of the world on behalf of the U.S.
If we're talking future flows, Indonesia alone is set to receive 140 million doses from China.[4] India is ramping up production from 60-70 million monthly doses to 100 million monthly doses from April.[5] "Tens of millions" of doses from the US is a drop in the ocean compared to that.
1. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-india-...
2. https://www.euronews.com/2021/03/11/covid-vaccine-brussels-s...
3. https://m.dw.com/en/coronavirus-digest-us-to-send-first-vacc...
4. https://go.kompas.com/read/2021/02/17/172557174/indonesia-to...
5. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/03/18/9780657...