Those of you looking for an alternative, consider moving your data to a Keepass database. Its a more or less open file format, which a lot of different tools can read.
My goto tool currently is Keeweb - https://keeweb.info/. Its basically a SPA, can be used offline or online.
Keeweb + a google drive hosted keepass database file keeps my passwords available and synced across 5-6 different devices.
Never again on Keepass. The dollar savings is not worth the hassle of it.
You have to use a different client on every device because the official client is Windows only, and I’ve even experienced bugs a client I used that caused me to lose data entered into secure notes.
And while a single page app client is nice, it’s not good for password managers. 1Password integrates with the iOS password management API and browsers to fill in passwords and even credit card info, and I’m guessing most competitors like Bitwarden (open source just like Keepass!) do the same.
Saving ~$10-50 a year on something as useful and vital as a password manager in order to “roll your own” is such a bad tradeoff.
I switched off of Keepass when I almost accidentally lost data due to a client sync conflict. I had to go back to my Dropbox history and do a bunch of surgery to repair the damage. It’s just not worth it.
>Saving ~$10-50 a year on something as useful and vital as a password manager in order to “roll your own” is such a bad tradeoff.
This. I find it really strange that tech-savvy folks---who almost certainly have thousands of dollars worth of equipment---would cheap out on a password manager. You want a password manager that's secure, reliable, well-maintained, and usable. And doubly so if you want your less tech-savvy family to get the benefits and conveniences of using a password manager. Those things cost money. And $60/year (on the high end of things) is a bargain for what you're getting.
And doubly so if you want your less tech-savvy family to get the benefits and conveniences of using a password manager.
Definitely agree with this. I might consider setting up Keepass for myself (though I actually just pay for 1Password), but my lay friends would bounce off the setup and maintenance work of rolling your own Keepass setup immediately, and then I'd be on the hook to help them troubleshoot. I'd rather just point them at Bitwarden or 1Password. It works well enough and has good enough support that they get an operational password manager with minimal hassle and I don't have to spend time supporting it. Sure, you don't control their clouds, and 1Password isn't open source, but even so it's a dramatic improvement on a lay user's account security.
> All that hassle so that you can save $10 a year.
You are talking as if KeePass's only advantage is being free and it is only preferred by people who cheapen out. That's not true, just as it's not true for similar arguments for Android vs iOS, or Linux vs Windows, or Windows vs MacOS. People have different preferences and priorities.
Even if the pricing was reversed, I am sure many people would prefer KeePass, as I do, just as in general preferring paid desktop programs to free online services.
> something as useful and vital as a password manager
Indeed, even if one day I give in and start using those online services for everything, something as vital as a password manager would be one of the last places where I would cave in.
I understand that KeePass wasn't for you, and it probably isn't for heavy mobile users as it is primarily a desktop program (official KeePass client works on macOS and Linux by the way, though it feels more at home in Windows). I am sure you could find excellent mobile clients too (I wouldn't know as I never had the need), but I understand that lack of official clients and having to choose among non-official clients, some of whom might be buggy, can be frustrating. But it is perfect for my use case, and for my non-technical parents that I introduced it to, regardless of price.
Keepass is simply not the best solution anymore, even if you want to stay in the FOSS realm. It’s just clunky old software that makes it far too easy to accidentally lose data.
So you voluntarily prevent yourself from updating passwords when you’re on your phone or tablet just so that your password manager doesn’t lose data?
Isn’t that a ridiculous design oversight? To completely handicap any situation involving more than one computer? That’s exactly why I stopped using Keepass.
My use case is different. My all passwords are in Chrome. Simple. Keypass has some specific passwords like Chrome Sync Phrase, some zip file passwords, some other things. Plus initially I used to use keypass when i started using any password management instead of same password everywhere.
At that time, & still now, I use Dropbox to sync PC KP db with Dropbox. Then FolderSync to sync one way (read only) from Dropbox to Phone. If i need to add password, I wanted to make sure I can add only on PC. PC had the official Keypass, phones had the Offline Keypass App.
$10 now is nothing for me, but few years ago in India it is about 2 days salary of a manual laborour. About 5 meals. Or about 10 litres of Petrol.
I am always wary of anything online which has my passwords. The same reason Chrome does not have all my passwords, but still I trust Google more than any other relatively smaller software like Lastpass or bit warden or anything.
Keeweb looks nice. On macOS I use KeePassXC[0] but I'm not a huge fan of it. Will give Keeweb a try.
On iOS I switched to KeePassium[1] for my database a while back and its very nice. It integrates with biometric unlock and iOS password management so I can get at easily from anywhere and it stays in sync with the stored database (via a self-hosted Seafile[2] instance) nicely.
The setup has served us (two users) well with few hiccups and good support for dealing with the rare conflicts that do arise.
Second on this. I've been using it for almost six years now, never had any issues on my desktop or Android. Probably requires a bit more setup than LastPass, but it has been able to do anything I've ever wanted to do, including apps/plugins for Android, Chrome, Firefox, SmartFTP, and more.
My goto tool currently is Keeweb - https://keeweb.info/. Its basically a SPA, can be used offline or online.
Keeweb + a google drive hosted keepass database file keeps my passwords available and synced across 5-6 different devices.