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It seems like there are two groups of lords, one group has been heavily shown in the media(think Downton Abby or the aristocratic family having to sell or have tours of their estate). The other set of lords is not really shown in media and they are large landowners in London and other cities in Britain and are extremely wealthy and powerful, see the Grosvenor family - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Grosvenor,_7th_Duke_of_We...


Not really. You don’t have to be a landowner or an aristocrat to become a lord. The ‘Downtown Abbey’ style lords, called ‘hereditary peers’ are on their way out, there’s not many left. Most peers are appointed by the government of the day supposedly as a result of doing something useful for the country as a whole. I think that certain members of the clergy become peers by default, likewise top judges, ‘The Law Lords’? Otherwise the majority of appointed peers, who are given the title of “Lord” or “Baroness” when they are appointed, are politicians that have been promoted out of the way of the young crew coming up, retired senior lawyers, judges, business people, doctors that sort of thing. Once appointed you are a Lord for the rest of your life.

So the House of Lords is democratic in the sense that lords are appointed by elected politicians, but its less democratic than say the European Commission, where commissioners are also appointed by elected governments but have a fixed term of office. Which is less democratic than the Houses of Parliament, which is less democratic than a proportionally elected government like the Germans have and so on, but I digress.

Basically its a continuation of the idea that the British state has had the ability to create Lords for thousands of years, but now they don’t pass the title on to their children and they dont get given a bit of land to build a castle on. I think there are probably a few hereditary peers that are actually just the great great grandchildren of very successful Victorian businessman, just because they have the title ‘Lord’ does not necessarily of aristocratic lineage dating back to William the Conquerer.


Hereditary peers seem to be doing quite well according to this article,

https://inews.co.uk/news/long-reads/aristocrat-uk-britain-fa...

> Separate research last year confirmed that just under a third of all land in England and Wales is owned by members of the aristocracy


Let's not forget the Lords Spiritual, the 26 bishops who sit in the Lords -- we are still, just a bit, a theocracy.


814 hereditary peers left, half barons.


That’s completely incorrect. There are only 802 seats. 92 are hereditary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords. Just because you have the heriditary title of Lord, it doesn’t mean you are a peer of the House of Lords


This is true but only 92 of them are permitted to sit in the House of Lords since Tony Blair's first government


Is that really a decline? How many were there in 1600?


The decline only started in the 20th century. It had been steadily increasing before that.




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