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Turkeys think they have a great life right up until Thanksgiving.

While I’ll readily concede that Japan has surprised everyone, at some point in time the sheer magnitude will overcome the lenders’ belief. Their ability to repay, and then it all goes downhill very fast.

That’s the thing - hyperinflation happens fast. You usually don’t see inflation, high inflation, higher inflation, and then hyperinflation. Instead you see slow deterioration and then a huge jump in a short period of time. It’s like falling off a cliff in its suddenness.



> sheer magnitude will overcome the lenders’ belief

Japan lends to itself. The BoJ owns so much of the government bond market that there are days where the benchmark bond simply doesn't trade [1]. Under absolutely no circumstance will Japan have any issue repaying Yen denominated debt when they have a monopoly on the Yen. They're theoretically not far away from just retiring the whole bond market and just running an overdraft at the BoJ for all government borrowing requirements.

Can you provide evidence to your point on hyperinflation happening all of a sudden too? I think all instances in history (except maybe Zimbabwe, but I've lost the details) involve external obligations that are unable to be met (War repatriations payable in gold for Germany, extreme dependance on imports for Venezuela since the economy was so misbalanced, high USD denominated debt burdens for Argentina ... etc). I

[1]: https://www.wsj.com/articles/nobodys-trading-10-year-japanes...


Take a look at this page on Investopedia. [0]. All the examples are less than 24 months. Also, WEForum has some stats from 2019, where Venezuela has been in hyperinflation for a longer period of time. [1] and of course, Lebanon is probably the most current example. [2]

I’ve saved the best for last, though. Nicholas Kraus is probably the leading expert on hyperinflation, and has a great list here. [3]

[0] - https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/12291...

[1] - https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/08/inflation-deflation-v...

[2] - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-emerging-inflation-graphi...

[3] - https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/hanke-kru...


> Japan lends to itself

I meant to address this point separately. What you say is technically true, but if they just retired the debt, Japan would simultaneously become a much poorer country.

Remember, the owner of the debt gets to mark it as an asset, so while the debt would be canceled out, the assets would drop in an equal amount [0].

[0] the Accounting equation is Assets = owners equity + liabilities, so a reduction in liabilities must cause a corresponding reduction in assets. And yes, it’s that insidious, but it is spun by people who have an interest in people not understanding this.


As Noah says in the article. The question he's addressing is how to know when we are approaching the cliff. We all agree it is out there but we can have a much better society if we know how far. If we fall off the cliff of course that is bad. Conversely if we cripple our opportunities because we are afraid, but the cliff is really many many trillions of dollars further away, that is also bad.


That seems akin to predicting the stock mocket... If you, as a lender, could predict before everyone else when the cliff was approaching, then you would stop lending sooner.

If everyone does that, then the cliff moves closer, and your algorithm loses all predictive power.


UK debt-GDP has hit 250% during the Napoleonic Wars and 240% after WW2:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UK_GDP.png

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_national_debt#H...

The UK is still rolling forward that debt:

* https://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/oct/31/uk-first-wo...

Japan peaked at 180%.

The US can always revert the Trump tax cuts (for the rich), as they didn't seem to do anything useful and get some extra revenue. That should help.


Japan has been well above 180% for years. [0]

[0] - https://www.statista.com/statistics/267226/japans-national-d...




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