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Not just new construction. Studio apartments in old buildings have also been retrofitted into 1-bedrooms by gutting the kitchen and carving out one of these crap kitchenettes from the main room, including in a building I used to live in.

When I was exploring listings to see how the pandemic affects prices earlier in the year, these “kitchens” I described were also the norm over in the Sunset and Richmond around... Septemberish? Why? I don’t know, in some cases the stove had actually been removed, but maybe the full sized fridge was left in.




Were mini-kitchens the norm in September, or were they all on the market because suddenly everyone needed a full kitchen? If I lived in SF during the first lock downs, upgrading to a unit with a full kitchen would be very high on my housing priority list.

When we moved out of Santa Monica, our craptastic unit was re-rented inside the 30 day window and occupied two days after we left. Why? Because it had a tiny sliver of outdoor space, which suddenly mattered a lot. I imagine that all of the tiny condos in the area are staying on the market longer because the idea of WFH from less than 500sq ft. sounds awful to pretty much everyone now.


That’s a good question I don’t actually know the answer to, but you’re right that I should have considered it.

I think it’s worth investigating later, but for now I’m inclined to say it is probably a little of column A and a little of column B.

If I hadn’t personally observed apartments renovated to remove features try and pass it off as a 1 bedroom prior to the pandemic, I might have considered that angle initially, but for now it is still coloring my view of what I saw in September. I think this is becoming more of a norm, and they were the norm as far as what was available at the time, but this could also have been that units with kitchens were getting filled faster at the same time I was making my observations.

What infuriated me personally wasn’t that there were so many, but that the asking prices were about the same as the asking price for an equivalent unit with a full kitchen. It’s a seller’s market, that’s what I’ve been more or less communicating all up and down the thread, but damned if that doesn’t peeve me.


Welcome to a place in a Pompei insulae, circa 100 BC :-))


Ah so I wasn’t the only one thinking it over the weekend.

It’s amazing how little actually changes after two millennia. At least we know people are still people. :)




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