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The states are riddled with obesity, depression and overworking - still I think health care should be evaluated on the actual structures and services available, not on aggregates statistics that depend on a lot more.

My wife on NHS (UK) gave birth on a sofa with pretty much no equipment - and they conveniently missed the time when epidural could be administered. Waiting times are bonkers. And NHS was touted as a best system in the world in 2018.

It's just political propaganda if you ask me.




Who touted the NHS as the best in the world? UK's own politicians? The same guys who under-fund the NHS year on year? The same guys who are trying sabotaging it so they can privatise it?

The NHS is a great institution but the UK government seem hell bent on destroying it while passifying their voters with misleading soundbites about their investment in it.


The Commonwealth Fund

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/jul/14/nhs-holds-on...

Seems slightly surprising to me - I would have assumed it would be France or one of the other EU countries.

Edit: I'm a supporter of the NHS but it has been chronically underfunded and had too many management consultants trying to "improve" it over the years.


NHS is clearly not the best HC system when taking into account most factors (18th in the world) https://www.who.int/healthinfo/paper30.pdf


The US is at 37 - which is amazing for the richest and most powerful country in the world.


That sounds like an awful experience and I’m sorry your wife had to go through that.

I just wanted to add that when my wife gave birth in the UK on the NHS last year she had an amazing experience and the level of support before during and after was incredible.

In general all my experiences with the nhs have been positive. In comparison the only other country I have experience with is Hong Kong where I had a dr laugh in my face when I enquired about a genetic condition I may have inherited.

The nhs is far from perfect and could use improvement. I think it’s just that most other countries are even worse.




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