The only legal option I can see is "move out of CA", which probably means get another job. Which, you know, people sometimes do if they feel strongly about the right to carry, but likely wasn't in his set of considered options.
> He was the chief security officer of the biggest company in the world.
Oh, you're suggesting he use Apple to, uh, "lean on" the sheriff? That seems much worse. One might even hope that was not one of his possible options, even as CSO...
> The only legal option I can see is "move out of CA", which probably means get another job. Which, you know, people sometimes do if they feel strongly about the right to carry, but likely wasn't in his set of considered options.
You didn't consider "report it to the DA, state police, or FBI" as an option?
> Oh, you're suggesting he use Apple to, uh, "lean on" the sheriff? That seems much worse. One might even hope that was not one of his possible options, even as CSO...
I absolutely did not read this in the GP's post. Whether it is what he meant or not, it's an ungenerous take. A more generous take is that with the resources available to him, reporting a bribe solicitation to the appropriate authorities is much less risky than it would be for (say) a random citizen of San Jose.
> reporting a bribe solicitation to the appropriate authorities is much less risky than it would be for (say) a random citizen of San Jose.
To say the least! He has the entire weight of the Apple legal department behind him, and that isn't something any sheriff's department would take on lightly.
> I absolutely did not read this in the GP's post. Whether it is what he meant or not, it's an ungenerous take.
I can confirm I didn't mean this! That's a stupid idea.
I don't really understand how randallsquared got that from what I said.
I think both of your responses can be cleared up by noting that @nl was responding to, and quoted:
> the employee was put in the unfortunate immediate situation of either not getting their lawfully permitted license, or paying the bribe
In this context, "options" mean "options to fulfill the CCW licensing goal".
Reporting it to the DA, state police, the FBI, or anyone else wouldn't further the CCW licensing goal (though it might fulfill others, and I'm certainly not arguing against it!).
Similarly, saying he had other options (for "getting their lawfully permitted license") because he was the CSO of the biggest company in the world may well have other meanings I didn't catch, but reporting bribe solicitations is not one, unless the dialogue had already veered from it's previous aim.
> I think that is artificially closing the options.
Ah. I took the quote to be the prompt for your reply, as mentioned above.
> Secondly, he could sue, and ask the court order the licenses be granted immediately if there was a time-critical need. There's probably other options available for relief too, and I'm pretty sure the Apple legal department could think of them!
In spite of Moyer being CSO for Apple, I hadn't realized that Apple Corporation was paying the bribe!
You are right that with the company directly involved, there are more options, and it was my misreading/skimming of the article which led me to the wrong conclusions, there.
> The only legal option I can see is "move out of CA", which probably means get another job.
How could that possibly be the only option?
Sue the sheriff's department is an obvious one, as is contact the FBI.
> Oh, you're suggesting he use Apple to, uh, "lean on" the sheriff? That seems much worse. One might even hope that was not one of his possible options, even as CSO
What?
No of course not.
Off the top of my head:
* Get Apple's lawyers advice (which would not be "pay an illegal bribe")
As mentioned in another subthread, I mis-skimmed the article and thought it was about his own personal CCW licensing, rather than being something Apple was actively involved in.
He was the chief security officer of the biggest company in the world. He absolutely had many other options.
I don't see any Apple apologists here in the comments. Who are you referring to?
You do realize that your comment here is exactly what "apologists" means, right?