> And they have spiking case counts just like the US right now.
What lead to this recent spike, in your opinion?
"peaches and cream" it's a global pandemic, I don't think "peaches and cream" is on the table right now. What we need is to survive to have peaches and cream another day, and that takes discipline and PERSONAL SACRIFICE not everyone whining and moaning about how they can't just pretend nothing is going on and do everything as normal, as some people seem so desperate to do. I weep for how spoiled and entitled our society is, living in the lap of luxury but still complaining.
“I weep for how spoiled and entitled our society is, living in the lap of luxury but still complaining,” they say while working from home and admitting that they have not left their house at all for the past half year, not even to feed themselves because a benevolent underclass of coronavirus immune elves delivers paychecks to their bank account and food directly to their door.
haha my friend, you need to sit back and take a chill pill. The fact that you're digging through my comments and trying to attack me personally is why I say this. But I'll play along for argument's sake:
Yes, I pay extra for grocery delivery or pickup, only order at places that do curbside or occasionally delivery, ordered a lot more than normal on Amazon and avoided public transit because yes, I can afford it. Would you rather I increase the population on the bus, in the grocery store and in restaurants even though I don't need to? Would you rather I keep the delivery fee I'd otherwise pay to my grocer & have them not employ extra people right now?
Yes, anyone who can afford to should be ordering pickup, delivery, etc. because it is less circulation of people and therefor reduces spread of the virus. This is the responsible thing to do. Less people circulating means less virus, and this is good for everyone, rich and poor alike. Not to mention all my extra spending on delivery directly from my butcher, grocer, etc. is injecting more money into my local economy and creating more opportunities for employment in the service sector which is currently being savaged by the pandemic.
I am sympathetic to your frustration, but I don't understand your lashing out at me over it. Do you want to share what frustrates you about this? Or hell, go ahead and give me advice if you want: What do you think I should be doing differently, in your opinion?
Also: wow. So 1.3 million avoidable deaths worldwide (or 250k in the US if you're there) is an acceptable loss to you, but staying home for the holidays is unacceptable?
Your lack of empathy for your fellow humans is staggering. A day may come when tragedy strikes your family, I hope you are shown more empathy than you are choosing to extend to others here.
I think it is good to have compassion for other people's frustration. Everyone has made sacrifices this year. I don't think any person's experience should be dismissed. The best way to inspire compassion in others is with your own compassion.
You are speaking truth, you're right I am getting hot under the collar in this discussion and it's not helpful.
To be pedantic, I would disagree that "everyone has made sacrifices" this year. To make a sacrifice implies giving up something one wants voluntarily. If I rob you that's not a sacrifice, you had no choice.
There are clearly a ton of people who are unwilling to "voluntarily give up" anything, and they've given things up only when forced to, i.e. by restaurant or school closures. There are many more who make vague gestures towards responsible behavior but refuse to do anything that would incur any actual inconvenience.
I wish it were true that everyone has made sacrifices, but I'm afraid we haven't achieved that level of civic responsibility, not by a mile.
OK you must be yanking my chain now, I can't believe you're commenting on this so boldly and are completely unaware of the last huge spike in cases when occurred in July.
A lot of the summer spikes were in hot places with a lot of air conditioning where people tend to stay inside a lot during the summer. When I have looked at infection maps in the EU and USA, they seem very clearly connected to season. I think there is a process where people adjust their lifestyles to the current risk of infection, but then the goalposts get moved and the infection rate goes up due to environmental factors. Then there is a period of behavior adjustment again until the infection rates level off.
What lead to this recent spike, in your opinion?
"peaches and cream" it's a global pandemic, I don't think "peaches and cream" is on the table right now. What we need is to survive to have peaches and cream another day, and that takes discipline and PERSONAL SACRIFICE not everyone whining and moaning about how they can't just pretend nothing is going on and do everything as normal, as some people seem so desperate to do. I weep for how spoiled and entitled our society is, living in the lap of luxury but still complaining.