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Just what you said. I ignore it because I know the other option is living offline and maybe off grid.


Are we really that lacking in creativity that we can't imagine a world in between "Panopticon" and "Oregon Trail"? Legislation that makes this illegal would be a great (and really easy) start.


> Legislation that makes this illegal would be a great (and really easy) start.

Legislation is really working right now, with Congress sitting on 400+ bills and refusing to vote on them, and with known members of the government, including the actual President of the United States of America, committing crimes and the top law enforcement agent doing worse than nothing about it.

Laws work in a society that values them. Once you throw that away, your authoritarians will do whatever fits their needs. And surprise, the authoritarians are doing just that right now.


I disagree with legislation being an easy path forward. legislation takes a long time. for example, we are 12 years into jewel v. NSA. even if you do change the law, lawmakers can create (and other governmental bodies can apply) other, conflicting law. it's very cat-and-mouse in the age of the PATRIOT act, secret courts, etc.


Agreed. Legislation will even take an infinite amount of time to pass when the political parties in power don't want to pass it (despite any ineffective posturing to the contrary).


A court case in the judicial branch does not in any way speak to the difficulty of enacting legislation the legislative branch. Our system of government intentionally separates the creation of laws from their interpretation.

It’s really not that complicated. If sufficient political will existed to enact stronger clearer privacy protections, legislation would be drafted and approved rapidly, and there is no reason Generating that political will is another matter.


Is there really no chance we can find technical solutions to these problems?


Seconded. Essentially hope that you’re such a small fry the machine won’t turn it’s gaze on you. Trying to vote for people who will curb it’s power and support those who blow the whistle or sound the alarm.


> I ignore it because I know the other option is living offline and maybe off grid.

Better option is using simple privacy tools. VPN, incognito browsing, vetting apps and permissions and avoid Google services.




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