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Sexual reassignment surgery is, which increases the risk of suicide by about 20x, the risk of suicide attempts by about 5x, the risk of inpatient psychiatric hospitalization by about 3x.

If you want to discuss the plight of transgender individuals, then the tremendously harmful medical treatment they receive should be right at the top of your list of grievances.

Unless that’s hate speech, and you’d prefer to discuss only alternative, less hateful realities.



> Sexual reassignment surgery is, which increases the risk of suicide by about 20x, the risk of suicide attempts by about 5x, the risk of inpatient psychiatric hospitalization by about 3x.

No, it doesn't. The source for that claim [0] doesn't control for people being transgender, comparing instead recipients of the surgery to the general population, which is not be a fatal flaw for some uses of the research (such as the conclusion of the actual report, that sex reassignment surgery is, alone, seems to be inadequate as treatment and needs supplementation), but it certainly is for the question “is sex reassignment surgery harmful, helpful, or neither for transgender individuals?”

Studies that are actually directed at that question find that it is beneficial,

https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/21447/

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/suicidal...

[0] https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal..., mostly entering American right-wing propaganda as an argument for the position you use it for via https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/sex-reassignment-...


The study you linked measures a completely different thing all together. It measures psychiatric treatment over time after surgery. It makes no mention of suicide, and seems to just gloss over the fact that psychiatric treatment tends not to be sought by the dead.

I also don’t think it’s a very valid criticism to dismiss the most comprehensive research on this topic to date, performed at Sweden’s largest medical research institution, as “American right-wing propaganda”.


>I also don’t think it’s a very valid criticism to dismiss the most comprehensive research on this topic to date, performed at Sweden’s largest medical research institution, as “American right-wing propaganda”.

However, it is valid to dismiss the Heritage's conclusions on the study as American right-wing propaganda as the study doesn't support their conclusions whatsoever. That study compares the effects of gender reassignment surgery to the general population, not a population of transgender people who never underwent surgery. Any statement you would make about gender reassignment surgery would necessarily be confounded by the affects of being transgender at all.


> The study you linked measures a completely different thing all together. It measures psychiatric treatment over time after surgery. It makes no mention of suicide

I'm not sure which of my links you are inaccurately referring to, but the first paragraph of the first one states, in relevant part:

> Transgender individuals who undergo gender-affirming surgery are significantly less likely to [...] attempt suicide in the years following the procedure, new research led by the Yale School of Public Health finds.

So, yeah, it mentions suicide quite prominently.

> I also don’t think it’s a very valid criticism to dismiss the most comprehensive research on this topic to date, performed at Sweden’s largest medical research institution, as “American right-wing propaganda”.

I didn't dismiss the study as right-wing propaganda (in fact, I explictly said that it's methodology is perfectly appropriate to the question it sets out to explore, and the conclusions it actually draws.)

I referred to it's misuse to support the claim that sex reassignment surgery causes those problems rather than that being transgender in today’s society causes them and sex reassignment surgery alone fails to adequately resolve them American right-wing propagadanda, largely originating with the American right-wing propaganda mill known as the “Heritage Foundation", which made that exact misuse which is neither a conclusion of the study nor supportable with it's results, which does not compare transgender individuals who receive the surgery with those who do not because the purpose of the study was not to address the question that American right-wingers want to abuse it to support.




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