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If you use DuckDuckGo you don't have to deal with AMP at all. Giving it a go on mobile is a good way to see how well it works for you too as searches tend to be less mission-critical compared to desktop-based searches.


Oh, that's why I've never really had any trouble with AMP - I've been using DDG for years.

Posts pasted from other people frequently have AMP - guess I should suggest a better search engine to them.


You can also install a browser extension that redirects AMP -> origin for you.

Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/redirect-amp-to-ht...

Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/amp2html/


Yeah, I use DDG and only get crappy amp links on reddit and other forums. Either don't click or manually remove the amp. Google can [insert insult here].


AMP is literally the reason I switched to DuckDuckGo.


Unfortunately, it is my experience that DuckDuckGo excels on the desktop (lots of facts and technical questions), and falls short on many mobile use cases ("best cafes in Some City," assistance with shopping or goods, maps, etc).

I use it on my phone anyway, but I wind up using `!g` all the time.

(yes, I made this same complaint on the DDG topic just a couple days ago)


Yeah, Google is far better at location-aware searches. To be honest most of those are usually done in Google Maps (sigh.. please somebody make a decent Google Maps alternative!) anyway, so it's not really an issue.


It's not just location-awareness. They also excel at weird fuzzy searches.

random example: My girlfriend lost her laptop in airport security, and I wanted to find a picture of the specific scratch-and-sniff sticker she put on it for the claim form. Duck Duck Go search for "glossier blackberry sticker" didn't find it; Google Images did, first try.

* this turned out to be a good move, I got a positive response from TSA within minutes


One issue is that "a decent Google Maps alternative" would cost literally billions at this point. This kind of infrastructure is really the government's job, but they have struggled to keep pace...


> Yeah, Google is far better at location-aware searches.

That's one of the reasons that I'm glad that I stopped using Google search. I've always hated location-aware searches.


> please somebody make a decent Google Maps alternative!

https://wego.here.com/ ?


On Duckduckgo there's a switch to turn on Region just below the search-field, or even choose Region manually. It helps alot!


You can still try Qwant (pretty good in my experience), Bing or Startpage (which uses Google in the back - but I never had any trouble with AMP when using it). It's not like there is no choice. And of course, there should be no reason to support Chrome either, Firefox is a great alternative.

EDIT: interesting, never thought such a comment would get a downvote... Google brigade?


Startpage was recently bought by an ad company.

https://reclaimthenet.org/startpage-buyout-ad-tech-company/


Thank you very much, I wasn't aware of this! Changing my default search engine... again.


> EDIT: interesting, never thought such a comment would get a downvote... Google brigade?

It breaks more than one of the site guidelines to post like this. Would you mind reviewing them and following them when posting here?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


This could be a game changer, I did not know this!!! I will look at that today, thank you so much for the tip!


I've found DuckDuckGo to work very well as my default search on mobile (so well, in fact, that I can't remember the last time I had to go to google for a search).

I still haven't brought myself to use it on my laptop, but I do use Bing on Vivaldi (I use Opera, Vivaldi, FF Dev Edition, Opera Dev Edition, and Chrome Canary - the first two for everyday browsing, and the rest for dev-ing. I use google in Opera, and Bing in Vivaldi).

Using search engines other than Google is a nice change of pace, even if not solely to avoid AMP pages.


Avoiding AMP is not so straightforward. I use DDG too, but I still end up on amp links, Twitter for example uses AMP links by default.


Any good alternative to Google News?



I'm working on building something like this for myself actually. I'm just curious, what would you hope to get out of a replacement tool?


RSS.


This is what I did. When the Google News redesign happened, it made Google News substantially less useful to me. Enough so that came up with a replacement.

It's not for everyone, as it requires running your own webserver, but I use Tiny Tiny RSS to aggregate the feeds of the various sources I'm interested in, then can read the aggregated feeds (I have multiple, a different feed for each general subject) through the web interface and/or by using an RSS reader. I use an RSS reader (gReader) on my mobile devices to do this.


I'm pretty sure that not all RSS clients require to run your own webserver? Opera used to have one, Thunderbird maybe ?


HN + a regional newspaper is my solution.




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