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Sorry HN-user from developing world (Bangladesh).

All AMP pages are about 10 % size of standard pages - at least for the newspapers and blogs. Until you tell all your webdevs/managers to remove all tracking+loading 25 scripts from universe...

Please keep AMP.

From Guardian, BBC to Washpost or our national dailies - it is horribly slow. Our dailies also show 'notifications' even on desktop!



This observation should be signal-boosted.

AMP makes a lot less sense from the point of view of people who never touch the Internet via sub-1MBPS connections and sub-5 second latencies.


AMP is dangerous precisely because it does solve problem. The catch is that the solution comes with strings attached, and those strings contribute to establishing Google as a web monoculture.


Firefox and Safari solve that same issue (with reader view) without the need to destroy open web in the process.


They don't download less bytes, they just throw them away. It's a solution to a different problem (that the site has become unusable, not that it loads unbearably slow)

Disclaimer: I'm a googler, my options are my own, I am not connected to the AMP project.


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I mean, it's a good quip, but it's autocorrect, and we don't get stock options we get restricted stock units :P

One of the reasons why I work at Google is, as a former web developer I didn't feel AMP was a problem. I did feel MAVEN was a problem, despite what that could do for my stocks. I get the criticism and do think AMP has a lot of problems, but I also think it's crazy that's what we are talking about in an article about oil and gas activism. /Shrug


Do you feel all the tracking Google does of people is a problem?

What about manipulating people through advertising?


How does Google manipulate people through advertising?


Did you ever watch Television growing up ? Or you're bitter because it's cool to be anti Google these days.


If Googlers weren't criticizing their own company's behavior there wouldn't be news stories every week about the new thing Googlers are criticizing Google about.

I find that Googlers as a whole are way more willing to criticize Google (both publicly and internally) than employees any other company I've worked for.


No, that solves nothing that AMP solves. Your comment is disinformation that make it seem like a non-issue.

Bandwidth is a real problem in developing countries that I feel people are not taking seriously. I don't think you understand the difference AMP makes.


some developing countries. Cambodia (well, Phnom Penh) mobile data rates are amazing, way better than Australia (for example).

Seeing tuk-tuk drivers earning $20/day watching YouTube non-stop while waiting for fares is weird. They definitely aren't going to see a difference from AMP.


I don't believe Firefox reader saves bandwidth, just alters the users view.


I love reader view in Firefox, but is it possible to set it default in Android? Otherwise I still have to load most of the assets.


Use the uMatrix plugin with Firefox.


It's very easy for someone in a country with good internet to have opinions about AMP. Their hate for it is apparently more important than people from developing countries being able to access internet.




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