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True, however if you look in the European context, Southern countries have lower rates despite having lower standard of living. So the climate cannot be completely ruled out, it is perhaps one of the factors.



Personally if I was to guess I'd put social isolation way above climate as a factor. If you look at the statistics for Sweden for example on a county level you quickly see that most suicides are clustered in isolated counties deep in the middle of the country, far from the larger (often coastal) cities, with zero or negative population growth and without much in the way of jobs or industry.


lower standards only applies if you think about money. In every other respect, life is more pleasant in the mediterranean than in nordic countries. Source: I'm from the mediterranean and I think life in California is shit, even if I make way more money than before.


>In every other respect, life is more pleasant in the mediterranean than in nordic countries.

Only if you have money. Otherwise there wouldn't be such a mass migration of youths from the Mediterranean moving for work in the Nordics.


And opposite when approaching retirement age.


Except that doesn't show up in the data about well-being, where the nordic countries outperform the mediterranean ones.


They are wrong. Most of those surveys are designed by people with a very clear view of what life should be that doesn't reflect the values of less materialistic societies.

A good example is the corruption index published every year, when the US always comes out as one of the least corrupt countries in the world. We all know for a fact there's tons of corruption in this country, we just decided to legalize most of it. Doesn't mean the US can teach anything to any other country about corruption.


Ok, but you're asking us to trust your opinion, and your opinion on data, coming from a position of being angry about where you live. Whereas most of us choose to live somewhere that makes us happy.

But anyway, I'm sure there are great reasons to discount the corruption studies and the studies of quality of life.

I haven't seen any of them in this thread, though.




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