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The projections from big oil in the early 80’s say the global economic system will collapse in about 20 years.

They nailed the current temperature rise. No reason to think the rest of the extrapolated curve is wrong.


Source? Curious to read



Yah. People will just die. Refugee sort of implies a refuge. There’s not going to be such thing’s around if things go south as we fear they are likely to. It’s gonna play out far more like the Old Testament.


> There’s not going to be such thing’s around

Heretofor uninhabitable places such as ... greenland maybe?


Greenland barely has soil. Take a look at the bed of a former glacier, and count the trees.


It depends on where you look. Glaciers pick up material for sure, but where they melt, it is all deposited as glacial till which provides nice heavy soil for agriculture. As Greenland thaws, all this stuff will be deposited upon it. Ireland for instance, and parts of the UK have been beneficiaries of this.

Also, worth considering is that it is virgin territory for exploration for minerals and other goodies.

No shortage of water either.

But even all that aside, it is newly available space. If you can build a city in a desert (Phoenix, Arizona lets say) you can build one on Greenland.


The only reason you can build a city in a desert is the abundance of cheap energy and the ability to build what it needs elsewhere. These two conditions are not met in an hypothetic refuge.

As for soil, the creation of soil in Ireland and the UK took quite a bit of time.


You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about. You talking out your arse.


Is that why Trump wants to buy it?


Start with the happy case or people will shut down and stop listening.


Seriously. Refugees? Mass extinction, more likely.


Why do you think those are mutually exclusive?


you mean the last 30 years?




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