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I thought all drugs were legal in Amsterdam and Portugal?



Consumption is legal, sale is not. That's what "decriminalization" usually describes, as opposed to "legalization"

Edit: but sale of cannabis is legal in the NL, under some conditions.


No it's not. It's illegal by law [1, 2] (Dutch sources). The supply chain is definitely still illegal.

In short you have (making these terms up):

1. Growers who produce and distribute the weed,

2. Runners who pick it up and bring it to the coffeeshop,

3. Coffeeshops

It's only legal for the coffeeshops to sell.

This sometimes devolves to a game like tag. The runners need to go as fast to the coffeeshop as possible in the most stealthy way. If the police catch them, then they are in trouble. However, if they bring it into the coffeeshop, they are safe.

Disclaimer: I am very biased here, I think this whole system is idiotic. The Netherlands should legalize weed. They have two economic incentives (1) weed tax and (2) sustained tourism.

[1] https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/drugs/gedoogbeleid-... - official source

[2] https://www.jellinek.nl/informatie-over-alcohol-drugs/cannab... - some talkshow source but explains it quite well


> The Netherlands should legalize weed. They have two economic incentives (1) weed tax and (2) sustained tourism.

(3) professional agriculture can start producing high quality cannabis in greenhouses instead of the often dangerous attic setups with stolen electricity. (although people do get very creative! https://nltimes.nl/2016/07/22/cannabis-farm-found-eindhoven-...)


"The runners need to go as fast to the coffeeshop as possible in the most stealthy way. If the police catch them, then they are in trouble. However, if they bring it into the coffeeshop, they are safe."

Is that really true? If the police wanted to, all they'd have to do is search any courier who comes in to the shop, or use video surveillance inside or outside the shop. There are infinite ways to try to crack down on sale and distribution, if they wanted to. But they don't seem to want to, and focus their resources on fighting "hard drugs" rather than cannabis.

On the other hand, some years back there was news that the conservative government was forcing the closure of a lot of coffeshops, and that there's been a backlash from the locals against drug tourists from other countries flooding their country, making a mess, getting in to fights, vomiting in their flowerpots, and just generally being annoying. They of course bring in lots of tourist revenue, but I guess the Dutch don't value that as much as they used to.


Well, I'm playing the game of telephone here (aka too far removed from it), so take it with a grain of salt.


1. Amsterdam is a city, not a country 2. Legalization =/= Decriminalization (for Portugal)


It might be that the umvi thinks that weed was only legalized in Amsterdam and not in The Netherlands as a whole.

@ umvi: weed usage is tolerated on the consumer-side in The Netherlands, by law it is illegal.


decriminalized only




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