I feel like your "fire" and "totalitarian" examples are confusing, entirely off-base and non-illustrative of anything useful to this conversation.
Why? Because the difference between copyleft and non-copyleft licenses isn't akin to censorship vs no-censorship. The argument for the copyleft is more akin to the arguments for laws in general: someone's absolute freedoms needs to be troddened on to have a free society.
I similarly fail to see how a copyleft is a power to abuse. Surely the ability to close the source of an application has more power that can be abused?
Your 2nd paragraph says pretty much what I was trying to say (except for difference in law views) that your 1st paragraph says is off-base.
Another way for me to say it is, that of course you would think my thoughts are off-base since I come from a different foundational base as you. I was just trying to explain the difference itself, not saying that you need to change views (your view is logical from your "base").
You think people's freedoms need to be trodden upon for a free society.
I don't. That scares me and many others.
Edit: I did not downvote you, just FYI, I don't know who/why would.
> You think people's freedoms need to be trodden upon for a free society.
Do you take this stance with laws against murder and theft? Society has laws and rules. People as a whole, as all available examples show, do not optimize for the greater good by default and without any rules or norms.
There are good talking points to the copyleft debate, but that copyleft imposes rules and non-copleft doesn't is false and doesn't move this debate forward in any meaningful way.
Why? Because the difference between copyleft and non-copyleft licenses isn't akin to censorship vs no-censorship. The argument for the copyleft is more akin to the arguments for laws in general: someone's absolute freedoms needs to be troddened on to have a free society.
I similarly fail to see how a copyleft is a power to abuse. Surely the ability to close the source of an application has more power that can be abused?